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http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/ptd/4020094233.html On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Welcome, Andy. > > While there is a possibility someone on the list has the part you need, or > knows of one at a local knackers (junkyard), you might also try posting > something over at Benzworld in the Vintage forum. > > In the meantime, hang out here for a while and enjoy the ambience! > > I'll start things off by asking what kind of oil you use in your Mercedes? > > (We won't hold it against you that you know Clay.) > > Dan > > > On Aug 30, 2013, at 10:00 PM, andy rosenthal wrote: > >> Hi all.I'm new to the list, brought on board by my friend, Clay.I recently >> bought a '73 450sl. Someone tried to break into the trunk before I bought >> it. I had a new trunk lock-cylinder keyed to match my ignition, but it came >> from a newer sedan, and the bracket that houses the cylinder is different. >> (Too "stout" -the latch won't clear) If anyone has the correct bracket for >> this model/year or knows where to get one, I'd be very grateful. >> Thanks,-Andy >> >> >> >> >> From: mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 93, Issue 260 >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 00:48:24 +0000 >> >> Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to >> mercedes@okiebenz.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> mercedes-ow...@okiebenz.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Mercedes digest..." >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: diese...@pisquared.net >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:12:15 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos >> >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:24:32 -0500 Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig" <diese...@pisquared.net> wrote: >>> >>>> It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size >>>> pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger >>>> than my monitor at 1920x1200.... >>> >>> I agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am >>> being facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image >>> sensor allow crappy pictures to be huge. >> >> My Nikon Coolpix 775 has different sizes of pictures one can choose >> between. Do phones have the same capability? >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: arche...@embarqmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:08:42 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos >> >> Which is the simplest to join and use? >> Thanks, >> Gerry >> >>> There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are >>> easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you like. >>> Rick >> >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: okd...@gmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:54:29 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet >> >> I wonder how you use a reflector with one of the new flat box WiFi MIMO >> routers with no external antennas? >> I'm thinking trial and error now --- a quarter wave length is about 1.2" -- >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The easiest is a reflector for the antenna. >>> >>> http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/Ez-10/ >>> >>> There are other, more effective ways - but they all cost a _lot_ more. >>> >>> -- Philip >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 >> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." >> - Benjamin Franklin 1789 >> 2013 F150, 19 mpg >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: onecreat...@gmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:58:44 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bringing back the View Master >> >> Totally, at http://reelagram.com we're catering specifically to the >> Instagram community--purely 2D. Our partner, Image3D, who makes all of this >> possible can work with you to create true stereo reels http://image3d.com >> >> >> Darren >> >> On Aug 30, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> Darren wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey all, just wanted to share a little diddy we just launched. No >>>> doubt you're familiar with View Masters, the old school slide >>>> reel viewers--you probably had some Disney ones years ago... >>>> maybe still do. >>>> >>>> I've partnered up with a guy that used to shoot in stereovision, >>>> did all that fancy stuff for Spielberg back in the day... and >>>> well in the spirit of adorning the analog, I'm trying to get the >>>> new kids hooked back on these things. >>> >>> If I'm reading correctly, it looks like you are making 2D, >>> mono-image viewmaster disks from users images. >>> >>> What if I have stereo-view pictures? Can those be turned into >>> stereo-view viewmaster disks? >>> >>> -- Philip >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: okd...@gmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:04:15 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car >> >> The local VW dealer has one in the show room, mostly restored. It's not for >> sale, and I don't think they drive it. >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>>> We saw some of those "Things" when we were in Hawaii last winter. A good >>> vehicle for that climate. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 >> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." >> - Benjamin Franklin 1789 >> 2013 F150, 19 mpg >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: d...@penoff.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:09:03 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet >> >> Just hang a piece of foil up behind it... >> >> Despite having internal antennas, most of these new "encapsulated" routers >> often have fittings for external antennas. >> >> You might also see what is available in the way of antennas for the >> endpoint. I have gone that route with some success on desktop machines. >> >> Dan >> >> On Aug 30, 2013, at 7:54 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >>> I wonder how you use a reflector with one of the new flat box WiFi MIMO >>> routers with no external antennas? >>> I'm thinking trial and error now --- a quarter wave length is about 1.2" -- >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: okd...@gmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:11:09 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet >> >> Right, but you get interference patterns that cancel the signal in some >> places, and boost it in others without properly placing the reflector - >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: >> >>> Just hang a piece of foil up behind it... >>> >>> Despite having internal antennas, most of these new "encapsulated" routers >>> often have fittings for external antennas. >>> >>> You might also see what is available in the way of antennas for the >>> endpoint. I have gone that route with some success on desktop machines. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 >> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." >> - Benjamin Franklin 1789 >> 2013 F150, 19 mpg >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: l02tur...@comcast.net >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:25:36 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >> >> Came across an article in Octane about this company doing "resto-mods" >> on older MBs. Very impressive MBs!! >> >> http://mechatronik.de/ >> >> Enjoy - >> Larry >> >> On 8/30/2013 9:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote: >>> Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was >>> in the shop. It was one of the 'Sport' models. >>> >>> That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned. Course >>> most of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my >>> career. >>> >>> The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not >>> see 100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c: >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >>> >>> >>> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today >>> >>> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past. >>> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100 >>> bucks for it >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Off with his head! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit >>>> that >>>>>> thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears >>>>>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. >>>>>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway >>>> if >>>>>> you use only premium. >>>>>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory >>>>> specs >>>>>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end. It's >>>> actually a >>>>>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's >>>>>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top >>>>> speed >>>>>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you >>>>> can >>>>>> push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you >>>> do >>>>>> (as in a couple runs). >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> *www.BuyEUROparts.com* >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: heni...@gmail.com >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:02:14 +0930 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick 108 photos >> >> Funny how when Klebby posts pictures, they get approved in a nano >> second, us peasants sit there for days/weeks/years waiting. >> >> Seriously though, my take is that a 108/9 is a car that is suited to an >> enthusiast who really loves these cars and is willing to put the effort >> into them. >> Unless you get lucky and find a minter for cheap (grandma selling off >> grandpas old car type of thing), there is not much money to be made. >> Parts for these things are getting rarer and rarer, most bits on the car >> are 40 years old and will need replacing sooner rather than later. >> Looking at those pics, the dash is cracked, the seats are cracked, the >> wood work is faded, the body is average and that's not even getting into >> the mechanicals. >> If the body was close to perfect on that car, I would say it would be a >> worthwhile proposition, insofar that you don't have to spend money on it >> and can focus on the interior and mechanicals. >> >> Hendrik >> who has a close to perfect body >> >> On 31/08/13 08:16, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>> One other thing too, even though some folks like the 6 cylinder better, I >>> still think I would rather have a v8. I have had a couple of 4.5s none >>> drivable tough and ended up selling them before fixing them. Even had a >>> 300sel once. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Consider that you have a tendency to either flip stuff or sit on it for a >>>> while. It's not going to appreciate in value, at least not for some time. >>>> If you let it sit it's going to be problematic, as the fuel system won't >>>> like it. >>>> >>>> I think you would be wise to pass. At least until you find me a nice >>>> finnie like the one you bought cheap off of Toad. >>>> >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts >>>>> cars and no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look >>>>> at a ran when parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: l02tur...@comcast.net >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:44:47 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >> >> I had a slightly different epiphany - when i was doing 90in my 911 I >> could see waaaaay in the distance a big Buick slowly pulling out in >> front of me. I thought - "They have no idea how fast I am >> approaching" as I got on the brakes and slowed dramatically. That was >> the last time i drove in "Go to Jail Territory". It's just too >> dangerous. People just don't expect a road rocket to be heading toward >> them and the fast driver has _/all /_the responsibility to avoid the >> accident. Many people can't even see a small sports car several hundred >> yards in the distance much less estimate how fast they're approaching. >> >> BTW, i know I was being irresponsible by driving so fast on a public >> road and never drove that fast again... >> >> BTW, a few years ago the speed limits in Montana and N. Dakota were not >> enforced. I've even heard that people from Europe have brought their >> fast cars over specifically to drive on those interstates because the >> Autobahn was becoming so congested. That was on a program called >> /Modern Marvels - The Autobahn/ and included a great snip of a SL >> tumbling over and over from "high speed" then seeing the driver hop out >> and walk to the hill next to the highway. They said the Germans built >> cars that could survive and excel on the unlimited speed zones. It was >> pretty impressive. I believe it's still on Youtube in several parts.... >> BTW, there wasn't much left of that SL! >> >> Larryt >> 91 300D >> >> On 8/30/2013 1:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: >>> the problems today is the penalty. what used to get you a warning or maybe >>> a $100 fine today gets your car impounding, the night in jail and a 4 >>> figure fine >>> >>> i remember the encounter with police that finally convinced me you can't >>> drive fast anymore in the USA after decades of believing the driving time >>> between fort lauderdale and naples is about an hour. it was about 3 years >>> ago on I-85 in NC. i had been driving with another guy at about 120 but he >>> turned off, so i slowed down to a comfortable cruising speed. about 5 >>> minutes later the blue lights came on behind me. >>> >>> "do you know why i pulled you over?" >>> "yeah, you felt obliged to because of my speed" >>> 'do you know how fast you were going?" >>> "like 85ish. maybe closer to 90" >>> "what?? why did you tell me that???" >>> "well, i mean, we both know how fast i was going, so why play games about >>> it?" >>> "do you know what i'm supposed to do now?" >>> "well, judging by your tone, i am unaware" >>> "i'm supposed to impound your car and arrest you. then, after you get out >>> of jail, you'll have to return in person to stand trial" >>> "what???????????" >>> "look, i'm writing you up for 79 in a 65. please be more careful in the >>> future!" >>> >>> so i heeded his warning and no longer drive fast. in fact, i mostly just >>> ride a bicycle nowadays >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed >>>> limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph + >>>> >>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400 >>>> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <caciok3s5kooowptiuvg+uywl-4gkwoid7b5wfb_6lb6wyqv...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today >>>> >>>> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past. >>>> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100 >>>> bucks for it >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> From: l02tur...@comcast.net >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:48:19 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >> >> Speaking of little cars, every time I see a MB "Smart Car" I think, >> Geez, I'd hate to be in that thing when I was involved in a wreck! >> They look like they'd roll up like aluminum foil.. but hopefully I'm >> wrong - right? >> >> LarryT >> >> On 8/30/2013 3:04 PM, clay wrote: >>> I am using my mothers Corolla while she is out of town. I hate that car. >>> It is buzzy and feels like it is made of tinfoil and chicken wire. You >>> feel every ripple in the road and get whiplash when you strike an errant >>> pebble. I drove it to Montana and back a few years ago. That was a mind >>> rending experience. Eight plus hours of drone and skiffle about the >>> roadway while your back and all ached from the poor support. >>> >>> IT does get wonderful mileage though >>> >>> clay >>> >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote: >>> >>>> Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was >>>> in the shop. It was one of the 'Sport' models. >>>> >>>> That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned. Course >>>> most of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my >>>> career. >>>> >>>> The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did >>>> not see 100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c: >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 >>>> >>>> >>>> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today >>>> >>>> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past. >>>> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100 >>>> bucks for it >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>>> <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Off with his head! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit >>>>> that >>>>>>> thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears >>>>>>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. >>>>>>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway >>>>> if >>>>>>> you use only premium. >>>>>>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory >>>>>> specs >>>>>>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end. It's >>>>> actually a >>>>>>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's >>>>>>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top >>>>>> speed >>>>>>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you >>>>>> can >>>>>>> push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you >>>>> do >>>>>>> (as in a couple runs). _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
