plymouth horizon?? is it still on the road?

On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> wrote:

> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
>> On Sep 5, 2013 6:43 PM, "Peter Frederick" <psf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> DO NOT use KYB!
>>>
>>>
>> What's wrong with KYB?  Not the same as OEM damping characteristics, or
>> are
>> they actually poor quality?  The latter I'd find hard to believe since
>> they
>> are OE on a lot of high-end Japanese cars.
>>
>
>
> The reputation used to be Koni=good, KYB=good for a little while.
>
> I put a KYB on the back of my SAAB when my control arm failed and broke
> the original Bilstein. At the time, you could get real Bilsteins from the
> dealer for $100, HD Bilsteins from various mail order vendors for $50, or
> KYBs for $20. That KYB did a reasonable impersonation of an EMS Bilstein
> for 20,000 miles or so before the car finished rusting out.
>
> Then I put adjustable KYB struts on the front of my Horizon. The original
> struts were still more or less OK at 70,000 miles when I did the switch.
> IIRC, the first set of KYBs were leaking by 120-130k. They gave me new ones
> for free under the lifetime warranty. Those died too, I don't remember
> when, but by then they didn't make the adjustables any more, and they gave
> me fixed dampers. Also told me the fixed dampers didn't have lifetime
> warranty, so no more free struts for you. At 230k miles, the third set of
> KYBs were still holding pressure.
>
> On the back, I installed Mopar HD shocks at 70k with the new front KYBs. I
> replaced those once under warranty, not leaking but noticeably low on
> damping, probably about halfway through the 2nd set of KYBs up front.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
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