So these mountains (Torres del Paine in Chile)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ochn324lfcwm6w/TdP211.jpg some 12k or 20k
years ago were under a kilometer or more of ice. The brown part on top
is sedimentary rock from when they were under water, and the granite on
the bottom is bedrock, it was all scraped down by glaciers. So at some
point in the past, before Suburbans and CFPPs it was REALLY warm, and
then it got REALLY cold, and now it is getting warm again.
So, my view is that there is global climate change, but the climate has
been changing for a loooooooong time, and yeah maybe my Suburban is
contributing, but there seems to be adequate precedent for it
happening. What is more recent is the redistribution schemes being
promoted by the warmists, and that sorta annoys me.
--R
On 1/19/14 1:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
The winter is not abnormally cold. It's just been an abnormally long
time since we had one. Siberia got all the cold last year, along
with central Europe, same deal the polar vortex dipped down on that
side. We used to get a cold blast at least once a winter every four
or five years, this time it's been 20 years since the last one, and
30 since one this cold.
California is having record heat and drought.
Average world temperature is indeed up quite a bit in terms of
average, if not a huge amount in absolute temp, but there are far
more high temperature records being broken every year than low
temperature records, even in cold areas.
The ship that got caught in Antarctica was trapped by a blizzard that
froze the lighter surface fresh water. Once the wind stopped blowing
the surface ice into the shore ice, it opened up and the ship is now
on it's way home, unharmed.
Don't forget that the climate has not always been what it is in North
America -- not all that long ago the tall grass pararie extended into
Ohio, what is short grass like Nebraska was deep desert and most of
the southwest was more like the deep Sahara with intervals of rain
decades apart, not years. Not all that much longer ago, the ice
sheets covered most of north America.
Peter
and before that, the Mississippi valley was tropical and wet. All
changed because the dinosaurs drove suburbans.
That is exactly what i mean by Deming's warning about not confusing
normal variation with special cause variation.
There is no special cause affecting climate. It is all a hoax created
by lying with statistics and fraudulent data and the grand hope of the
self perceived ruling class to tax everything and control everyone.
The same morons who brought us oh! Bummercare and characterize
wallymert as evil, while the wallymertinsurance is vastly better than
obummercare and vastly cheaper.
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