i avoid the doctors and their extortionist monopoly, yes, i do, i do
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Richard Hattaway <rhatta...@rocketmail.com>wrote: > The chronic poor have a good go at cheap healthcare, as they cannot get > blood from a turnip, as you mention. Personal experience, in an ER while > my son was having a toe sewn back on ( too many beers, rough deck on the > beach house ), was a woman there who was sick, and needed help. She was > not dying, but I think she wishes she was. It was obvious that they were > ignoring her. Maybe she comes in every week, who knows.. but the > experience I had was that she got her friend to take her home. Her comment > was that when she called the ambulance to bring her back, they would see > her asap, where as now she was having to wait. She didn't give a chit > about what it was going to cost, as she wasn't paying for it anyway. > > My concern is the family that lives in a modest house or apartment, lives > from paycheck to paycheck, must give up something to buy something else, > and has no hope of every improving. This describes a large piece of our > country's population. They cannot afford a sudden negative change of $150 > in their paycheck. It will have to come from food, or gas, or housing. > That's the only thing they spend money on. Many of these don't have health > insurance, and cannot afford ACA stuff, even though they must find the > money or be fined by POTUS. These folks have a phone, and are aware of > credit ratings, and know that when the hungry hospital administrator calls, > he is going to force them to make a decision on what they can live > without. And they will do the best they can to get the bill paid, because > they are the backbone of America. The *FELONY* here is that they do not > get the same charges as I do, for instance, because I have the largest > medical > service negotiator known on this earth negotiating for me. If I got > what I get without insurance, I'd consider not having insurance, as it is > not all that bad, as long as you're healthy. > > And of course I am talking about insurance here, and I have a strong > positive feeling that it should be only for catastrophic care.. I cannot do > that, as I've been paying my insurer so long that I get what I get and > nothing less. If someone wants to live without any insurance, then have at > it. I've seen my then 3 yr old grandson's bill cross the 7 figure line in > 2004, and have known a whole pile of healthy folks that have gone to the > hospital for something 'minor' and come out with a new appreciation of the > fact that the insurance allowed them to keep their car and house. So I > believe in insurance and I also believe in healthcare as Dan suggests. > Plus if you do Dan's healthcare plan, and have minimal insurance then you > also have the negotiation power that is so important today to keep your > medical bills at a reasonable level. > > There is absolutely no justification for the situation Hursty describes.. > " if you'd do this job for $42 for aetna, why are you asking me for $150?" > It's obvious Gary has not been to the doctor in a while.. now the ratio is > Aetna $42, individual $736.. > > > > > > On Friday, April 4, 2014 7:26 PM, Mountain Man <maontin....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Richard wrote: > > The thing I don't get is that this 'mentality' protects the folks who > can afford healthcare insurance ( wealthier ) while shafting the poor... > > > > The poor cannot be taken to court for non payment, can they? If a > poor person files as bankrupt and there are no assets, what can be > taken? Bankrupt is supposed to take value from the poor to pay for > debt but if there are no assets the debt goes unpaid, hence, perhaps > the poor are better off for hospital-care? Bankruptcy cannot leave a > person destitute at the street in the gutter, can it? Doesn't > bankruptcy allow a person to be left with a modicum of day to day > living essentials? > Thanks barrister Randy and barrister Grant. > mao > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. 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