My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron.
Greg -----Original Message----- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair. If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels.... I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty. MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching "too expensive" for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds? Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried. Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive,.... >> >> What about VW ? >> >> Thanks, >> Larry >> >> >>> On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: >>> Hi Gang, >>> Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking..... >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> LarryT >>> 91 300D >>> 78 240D >>> 74 911 >>> 66 MGB >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
