the return lines are not the metal ones *to* the injectors.
and i don't think there'd be any cause to worry about an engine cleaner damaging a metal line, since metal is what most of the engine is made of.


cheers!
e


On 31/Dec/14 13:04, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
You mean the bent metal lines to the injectors? Or the flexible rubber/cloth lines between each injector?

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

    be careful what you "clean the engine" with; the stock return
    lines are pretty easily destroyed by many engine degreasers and
    cleaners.

        i didn't see how long it's been since you replaced the ones
    that are in there, but frankly, i'd just replace the return lines
    all with known new good lines; it's the quickest/cheapest/easiest
    possible solution, and on the off chance that it doesn't solve the
    problem it's the easiest way to eliminate them as a possibility of
    the cause of the leak.


    cheers!
    e


    On 26/Dec/14 19:36, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

        Great input - thanks.  Clearly, I need to clean the engine and
        watch for
        the fuel to appear.  The cloth injector lines are pristine; in
        every other
        case of leaky lines they were saturated (dark colored). Mine
        are still dry
        and white from one end to the other.

        This is a CA version 1985 300TD - could that have something to
        do with it?

        On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
        mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

            If you don't have any luck with the return lines as other
            suggested and you

                go for replacement, then replace all the injectors. Or
                better yet, have
                them rebuilt by someone competent.

                But avoid those Indian bosch rebuilds, they're really
                horrible.  I just
                confirmed this in a 240D I bought a few weeks ago...
                the car ran very
                poorly, nailing and knocking.  The injectors looked
                recently installed as
                they were very clean. They tested ok on the pop
                tester, but I rebuilt them
                with new nozzles anyway.  Huge improvement.

                Good luck,
                Jaime

            I've seen compression leaks when the nozzle seal/heat
            shield is not seated
            properly, and leaks from the lines and from the return
            hose, but never from
            the body of an injector.  If the nozzles and nozzle
            holders are un-fiddled
            with, then you are looking at hoses as the most likely
            source of the leak,
            (99%)  If someone has recently fiddled with the Nozzle
            holders, the they
            may not have been assembled correctly and could be leaking.


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