i'd be replacing the return lines now for sure; if you got any of that stuff on the return lines, they may well be shrinking up, and start to pop off making an extra-special mess of the hood liner and everything else under the hood.

i still didn't see howl old the return lines are; those things aren't expected to last forever.


cheers!
e

On 01/Jan/15 20:08, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I used orange spray stuff - not too harsh - to clean up the valve cover and injectors and fuel lines. Then went for a 25 mile drive up I-270 and back. I popped the hood - there is no evidence of leakage anywhere.

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 8:35 PM, ernest breakfield <erne...@backyardengineering.org <mailto:erne...@backyardengineering.org>> wrote:

    the return lines are not the metal ones *to* the injectors.
        and i don't think there'd be any cause to worry about an
    engine cleaner damaging a metal line, since metal is what most of
    the engine is made of.


    cheers!
    e


    On 31/Dec/14 13:04, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
    You mean the bent metal lines to the injectors?  Or the flexible
    rubber/cloth lines between each injector?

    On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:21 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes
    <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

        be careful what you "clean the engine" with; the stock return
        lines are pretty easily destroyed by many engine degreasers
        and cleaners.

            i didn't see how long it's been since you replaced the
        ones that are in there, but frankly, i'd just replace the
        return lines all with known new good lines; it's the
        quickest/cheapest/easiest possible solution, and on the off
        chance that it doesn't solve the problem it's the easiest way
        to eliminate them as a possibility of the cause of the leak.


        cheers!
        e


        On 26/Dec/14 19:36, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

            Great input - thanks. Clearly, I need to clean the engine
            and watch for
            the fuel to appear.  The cloth injector lines are
            pristine; in every other
case of leaky lines they were saturated (dark colored). Mine are still dry
            and white from one end to the other.

            This is a CA version 1985 300TD - could that have
            something to do with it?

            On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
            mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

                If you don't have any luck with the return lines as
                other suggested and you

                    go for replacement, then replace all the
                    injectors.  Or better yet, have
                    them rebuilt by someone competent.

                    But avoid those Indian bosch rebuilds, they're
                    really horrible.  I just
                    confirmed this in a 240D I bought a few weeks
                    ago... the car ran very
                    poorly, nailing and knocking.  The injectors
                    looked recently installed as
                    they were very clean. They tested ok on the pop
                    tester, but I rebuilt them
                    with new nozzles anyway.  Huge improvement.

                    Good luck,
                    Jaime

                I've seen compression leaks when the nozzle seal/heat
                shield is not seated
                properly, and leaks from the lines and from the
                return hose, but never from
                the body of an injector.  If the nozzles and nozzle
                holders are un-fiddled
                with, then you are looking at hoses as the most
                likely source of the leak,
                (99%)  If someone has recently fiddled with the
                Nozzle holders, the they
                may not have been assembled correctly and could be
                leaking.


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