cute, but sadly inaccurate.
ignoring the parts we've already discussed, we've had no-go
failures including (but not limited to) broken accelerator linkage (350
miles from home, natch) and an ignition switch assembly behind the
tumbler that disintegrated (fortunately, directly outside a local indys
shop). not a big deal *if* parts were still available, but the idea that
these (or any other car) never break is just not true.
cheers!
e
On 04/Jan/15 17:34, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a better descriptor is the one offered by a tech at an indy
Autohaus: "they don't break".
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Sunday, 04 January 2015, 07:39PM -0500 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
"sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as much trouble getting parts for
either of those as we now do for the old
W123."Not really a fair comparison, the newest 123 cars are 5+ years
older and considering their cost when new much less common...
I think when most people say "bulletproof" they mean "maintainable".
The real killer for me on 123 cars is the inability to find one that
isn't all rusted out. Most of the cheap ones now have descended to the
level of real beaters that even I don't want to tackle. I saw a couple
on Craigslist in the $2500 range with no exterior trim, terrible
interiors and many signs of neglect like rust, failed paint, leaking
windows/sunroof and failed ACC.
Last summer when my Jetta quit on the highway (failed wiring to the
shutoff solenoid) a friend said "Geez I thought those were
reliable..." Its a 16 year old car I drove 20,000 miles in a year with
only 3 breakdowns. One I was able to drive home from, one I could have
driven home from with a little more knowledge and 2 feet of jumper
wire that I now carry. Sounds pretty good to me.
-Curt
Of course the Jetta is down right now awaiting a new radiator...
From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com >
To: Mercedes Discussion List < mercedes@okiebenz.com >; Dwight Giles
< dwight.gi...@gmail.com >
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
people seem to love to say this; but the long lists of parts we've
needed to replace on our MBZs seems to imply that these cars are
definitely not "bulletproof", as does the fact that there are local
junkyards that they have so many of them that they won't take them
unless you tow them to their doorstep and sign them over to them. they
definitely are not "bulletproof'; the appeal (to us) used to be that
they were reliable and perpetually maintainable while running B100, but
the parts availability has changed to where that's not even any longer
the case. sad, because we enjoyed over 125,000 miles on our 300D running
almost exclusively BioDiesel (without any troubles related to the
fuels), and don't know what we're going to get to replace it.
in fact, we have a 20 year old J**p that's done far more severe
duty and has more miles on it and has been cheaper to keep (even
including all the modifications) than our MBZs, and an early 90's Toyota
Corolla with over 325K miles on it that puts both of those to shame
while still getting over 30MPG. sadly, we haven't had anywhere near as
much trouble getting parts for either of those as we now do for the old
W123.
cheers!
e
On 04/Jan/15 13:55, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> The main joy in driving Mercedes diesels is that these cars are
> bulletproof, which is something to enjoy regardless of where fuel prices
> happen to be.
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>
>> Amen.
>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:23 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The fuel prices will continue to flip around for years to come. Do not
>> make
>>> long term plans, or regret past decisions based on the current
aberration
>>> or variations in prices.
>>> Enjoy the Diesel engine for the technical master piece that it is, and
>> that
>>> it is not the same as every other engine on the street.
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