The whole argument about the tar sands oil being produced anyway is moot
since oil prices have plunged.  The only economical way to ship the gooey
crude is via pipeline.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't see how this would benefit jobs. The number of permanent jobs it
> would create after construction is complete is less than 100, and that's
> been clearly documented.
>
> The oil would basically transport over the pipeline then go offshore.  Not
> sure how much benefit that would be for us.
>
> I agree with the safety aspect, but why couldn't they just pipeline it to
> BC and ship it out from there?
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Canadians are going to produce the tar sands either way, and it will be
> exported.  The pipeline would benefit American business/jobs. Pipelines are
> much safer than moving the oil by railroad, which is being done now and
> will continue, though if the pipeline were built Warren Buffett (FOO) would
> not be happy.  The greenie resistance is marginally reasonable absent other
> factors, but not so much in the context of the whole picture.
> >
> > ---R
> >
> >> On 2/13/15 9:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> We need it like a hole in the head.  Canada needs it to get their tar
> sands
> >> oil to world markets.  Recovering that oil requires huge amounts of
> >> greenhouse gas emitting energy to sweat it out of the matrix.  Obama
> will
> >> veto the legislation but even if he didn't, there are also sticky legal
> >> issues in Nebraska state courts regarding authority by a foreign entity
> to
> >> exert eminent domain to cross private lands.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> clay wrote:
> >>>> Keystone will not die...
> >>> Keystone seems to be a strange animal with low oil prices.  Why do we
> >>> need a new pipeline?  They said our reserves onhand are higher than we
> >>> have seen in years.
> >>> I heard that Goldman suggested $20/barrel oil.
> >>> mao
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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