Umm. I'd submit that either you don't have a very good jack (you're sure its a
20 ton and not a 2 ton? 2 ton bottle jack is maybe 3" in diameter, 20 ton is
more like 6") or you've got a very heavy cottage.
Maybe 13 years ago the floor in my grandmother's house was sagging really bad
under the fridge. We cut a 6x8 hole in the floor and found a broken beam. We
sistered 2x8s on to both sides and jacked both broken pieces into place, then
ran bolts through the 2x8s and the other piece of beam, put another 2x8 under
it and fashioned a post under that. All the jacking for that job was done with
a 5 ton bottle jack since we couldn't find the 20. My grandmother's house is
quite large, 2 stories with high ceilings, built around 1850 if I remember
right. We weren't lifting the whole house on that job but the fridge backed up
against an interior wall which had settled a bit more than an inch so we were
lifting the interior of the house. You could also see some bow come out of the
ceiling. That one we lifted over two days. Had to cordon off the hole in the
floor lest somebody forget and stumble into it on the way to get a drink of
water in the night.
-Curt
From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List
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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: OT Jacks
When I jack the cottage to level it, it makes the 20 ton jacks work.
Last summer I bought a bunch of the big old screw jacks. 6 of them are
about 2 feet tall and I think I have 6 that are about 1 foot or a bit
more and thenI have 3 or 4 smaller ones.
The idea with these is that you can leave them in place and give them a
half turn every couple of weeks and slowly move a building back up where
it should be without much danger of tearing things apart or breaking glass.
There is an addition on the south side of my house sitting on a grade
beam on bell piles that has settled and I hope to raise it back up at
some point. Unfortunately, it has a crawl space that is not easy to get
into and I may have to cut a hole in the floor in the den in order to
gain sufficient access. When I built the addition, I left a small
opening and put a trap door in the floor of a closet. Big enough to get
in and out but not all that good for hauling in lumber to build a beam
to jack on. I would also have to cut the stucco on the exterior and find
and release the bolts or cut them so that the building could be slowly
lifted off of the grade beam and up where it should be. Then I would
need to fill the gap and restucco the outside. I would also have to cap
the poured doorsteps on both the east and west sides as they are part of
the gradebeam and are down too. Not too obvious now but if the house
were levelled, then the porches would be very obviously out of whack.
The addition is 10 feet wide and 30 feet long and 2 storeys high. It has
settled about 2 inches on the outer edge and 2 inches on 10 feet is
obvious when I walk from the original house into the new part. No
plumbing or kitchen or bath etc. so not too much to cause other issues.
I think that the pull on that side of the house has altered the whole
house as some of the doors in the original house do not stay open on
their own now etc. I think, that if it was slowly moved back where it
started, it should sort out most of the issues that have been created by
the fact that the addition settled. The house was built new in 1981 and
the addition added in 1987 so none of it is ancient.
That is why I acquired all of these jacks.
RB
On 07/08/2015 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp...
> -Curt
> From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List
><mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
>
> A 12 ton jack is a small tool.
>
> RB
>
>
>
> On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I
>> think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except
>> driving nails.
>> Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house
>> jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a
>> house you don't use small tools.
>> -Curt
>> From: Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
>>
>> 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball
>> joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12" over all, so it is easier to
>> maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout.
>>
>> TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of
>> the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH
>> and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently.
>>
>> Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ.
>>
>>
>>> I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I
>>> gotten lucky.
>>>
>>> This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and
>>> I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's
>>> holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of
>>> torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and
>>> the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits.
>>>
>>> Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather)
>>> I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the
>>> car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two
>>> parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust.
>>> Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work.
>>>
>>> -------------
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop
>>>>it
>>>> with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no
>>>> clearance problems Clarence.
>>>>
>>>> If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are
>>>> gone now, so I just use the LFH.
>>>>
>>>> You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade
>>>>caliper
>>>> works better. I've never made the homemade caliper.
>>>>
>>>>
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