Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on details.

--R



On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml

Dan why am I not surprised Man

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On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, 
then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the other cracks, hacks, 
cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the 
electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever.

I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly 
$2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US.  I call 
the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look into it, determine 
my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were 
probably selling time to make calls.  Found out a few others at the company had 
the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light 
not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making 
calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then 
(though probably not from China at that time).  Now the cops have these devices 
that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff 
from them.  I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too.

--R

On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
off.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com <javascript:;>> wrote:

And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
the interconnected software could be implemented by the
manufacturers.



I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of
scale,
but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(
It could be used by Mafia hit men ...


Craig

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