The list of RICH climate change deniers is WAY longer than the opposite side.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:39 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: > As soon as hell freezes solid and the Ex calls me for a date to go ice > skating.. > > Your buy in to "climate change" is founded on faulty science, not backed by > solid historical research that has been properly interpreted. The > statistics going back 200 years, when properly applied, show a decade > increase of 0.01 degree centigrade. > > Instead of buying into the spew, try following the money trail left by > those who are promoting "climate change" and have a hard look at what > drives them.. Al Gore, for example, has become quite rich while selling his > version.. and he is only one of many. > > Shame.. you are a scientist.. use the facts. > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > So you would support a D gov for S Carolina? > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > An R in MA is pretty much a Dem Lite. MA has a history of electing > "Rs" > > > for gubna and it seems to work out pretty well as it provides a minimal > > > check on the plundering of the treasury. > > > > > > --R > > > > > > On 12/21/16 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > >> And is doing something about it - take note Curt and Dimitri. > > >> > > >> GOP climate leader cuts emissions, except from cars > > >> > > >> Benjamin Storrow <http://www.eenews.net/staff/Benjamin_Storrow>, E&E > > News > > >> reporter > > >> Published: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 > > >> > > >> Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker is a rarity among Republicans. He > > >> believes > > >> in climate change, and he's doing something about it. > > >> > > >> Baker released a proposal > > >> <http://www.mass.gov/eea/agencies/massdep/air/climate/sectio > > >> n3d-comments.html> > > >> last week to curb greenhouse gas emissions by 7.2 percent of 1990 > > levels > > >> in four years. The plan calls on power plants to curtail emissions, on > > the > > >> state government to upgrade its vehicle fleet and on pipeline > operators > > to > > >> patch leaky distribution lines. > > >> > > >> The question for Massachusetts: Does Baker's plan go far enough? > > >> > > >> [image: E&E Power Plan Hub Logo] > > >> <http://www.eenews.net/interactive/clean_power_plan> > > >> > > >> The answer is legally important. Massachusetts' high court ruled this > > >> summer that the Bay State is bound by a 2008 law requiring it to slash > > >> carbon emissions 25 percent of 1990 levels by 2020 and 80 percent by > > 2050 > > >> ( > > >> Climatewire <http://www.eenews.net/climatewire/stories/1060037515/>, > > May > > >> > > >> 19). > > >> > > >> Greens are quick to praise the governor. In the current political > > >> environment, they view any Republican working to combat climate change > > as > > >> a > > >> positive development. But the plan will almost certainly fail to meet > > the > > >> state's ambitious carbon-cutting goals, they say, noting that it does > > >> little to meaningfully tackle the transportation sector, now the > largest > > >> emitter of greenhouse gases. > > >> > > >> "I am encouraged that they are taking these steps," said Peter > Shattuck, > > >> director of the clean energy initiative at the Acadia Center, an > > >> environmental group. "For the long term, there clearly needs to be a > lot > > >> more done to achieve the 2050 reduction and the interim reduction to > get > > >> there." > > >> > > >> Power generators, for their part, see the plan as piling on. They > would > > be > > >> required to come up with the majority of emission cuts (about 4 > percent) > > >> under Baker's proposal. > > >> > > >> Utilities have cut their carbon emissions 60 percent in the last 16 > > years, > > >> said Dan Dolan, president of the New England Power Generators > > Association. > > >> Transportation, meanwhile, accounted for more than 40 percent of all > > >> statewide greenhouse gas emissions, roughly twice as much as the power > > >> sector. > > >> > > >> "We've picked the low-hanging fruit, and the focus needs to be shifted > > to > > >> the places where the low-hanging fruit hasn't been picked," Dolan > said. > > >> Deeper cuts at power plants > > >> > > >> State officials say they believe the plan gets Massachusetts to its > > legal > > >> targets. In 2013, the state had already cut emissions by 19.7 percent > of > > >> 1990 levels, according figures by the Massachusetts Department of > > >> Environmental Protection. > > >> > > >> Martin Suuberg, commissioner of the state Department of Environmental > > >> Protection, said the state tends to err conservatively when proposing > > >> emissions cuts. But he said regulators are open to ideas. > > >> [image: Charlie Baker] > > >> > > >> Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R). Photo courtesy of Wikipedia. > > >> > > >> The state's plan, which now goes out for public comment, calls on > > imposing > > >> an annual emissions cap of 9.1 million tons on power plants starting > in > > >> 2018. That would fall to 8.6 million tons by 2020 and 1.8 million tons > > in > > >> 2050. > > >> > > >> It would also impose emission limits for state-owned vehicles, and it > > >> calls > > >> on gas companies to patch leaky distribution lines and institute a > clean > > >> energy standard, allowing generators to receive credits for procuring > > >> low-emitting sources of electricity, like hydro. The proposal would > > >> effectively increase the state's renewable portfolio standard, which > now > > >> requires that generators receive 11 percent of their power from > sources > > >> like wind and solar. > > >> > > >> "I think we all recognize that we need to keep making progress, > > >> particularly as we're moving to transportation and other sectors," > > Suuberg > > >> said in an interview. > > >> > > >> Environmentalists are hopeful that they can convince Baker to go > further > > >> still. The state's proposed cap on power plant emissions needs to be > > about > > >> 1 million tons lower to meet its legal responsibilities, said David > > Ismay, > > >> an attorney with the Conservation Law Foundation. > > >> > > >> And while addressing state-owned vehicles is a start, "these > regulations > > >> do > > >> virtually no meaningful work in reducing those transportation sector > > >> emissions," he said. > > >> > > >> Baker may yet prove a test case for how far Republicans are willing to > > go > > >> in addressing climate change. > > >> _______________________________________ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > -- > > > --FT > > > Winston Churchill: > > > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, > > > large or petty, > > > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. > > > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might > of > > > the enemy.” > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
