There is no doubt there is climate change. It all goes in cycles and has 
nothing to do with us. The sun gets hotter, the orbits change a little......

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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'm not a denier. I just doubt that we are responsible for it as the evidence 
> is not clear. I don't believe in science that is created in order to further 
> a political agenda. I think we should do everything within reason to protect 
> our planet either way. 
> 
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>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> And is doing something about it - take note Curt and Dimitri.
>> 
>> GOP climate leader cuts emissions, except from cars
>> 
>> Benjamin Storrow <http://www.eenews.net/staff/Benjamin_Storrow>, E&E News
>> reporter
>> Published: Wednesday, December 21, 2016
>> 
>> Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker is a rarity among Republicans. He believes
>> in climate change, and he's doing something about it.
>> 
>> Baker released a proposal
>> <http://www.mass.gov/eea/agencies/massdep/air/climate/section3d-comments.html>
>> last week to curb greenhouse gas emissions by 7.2 percent of 1990 levels
>> in four years. The plan calls on power plants to curtail emissions, on the
>> state government to upgrade its vehicle fleet and on pipeline operators to
>> patch leaky distribution lines.
>> 
>> The question for Massachusetts: Does Baker's plan go far enough?
>> 
>> [image: E&E Power Plan Hub Logo]
>> <http://www.eenews.net/interactive/clean_power_plan>
>> 
>> The answer is legally important. Massachusetts' high court ruled this
>> summer that the Bay State is bound by a 2008 law requiring it to slash
>> carbon emissions 25 percent of 1990 levels by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050 (
>> Climatewire <http://www.eenews.net/climatewire/stories/1060037515/>, May
>> 19).
>> 
>> Greens are quick to praise the governor. In the current political
>> environment, they view any Republican working to combat climate change as a
>> positive development. But the plan will almost certainly fail to meet the
>> state's ambitious carbon-cutting goals, they say, noting that it does
>> little to meaningfully tackle the transportation sector, now the largest
>> emitter of greenhouse gases.
>> 
>> "I am encouraged that they are taking these steps," said Peter Shattuck,
>> director of the clean energy initiative at the Acadia Center, an
>> environmental group. "For the long term, there clearly needs to be a lot
>> more done to achieve the 2050 reduction and the interim reduction to get
>> there."
>> 
>> Power generators, for their part, see the plan as piling on. They would be
>> required to come up with the majority of emission cuts (about 4 percent)
>> under Baker's proposal.
>> 
>> Utilities have cut their carbon emissions 60 percent in the last 16 years,
>> said Dan Dolan, president of the New England Power Generators Association.
>> Transportation, meanwhile, accounted for more than 40 percent of all
>> statewide greenhouse gas emissions, roughly twice as much as the power
>> sector.
>> 
>> "We've picked the low-hanging fruit, and the focus needs to be shifted to
>> the places where the low-hanging fruit hasn't been picked," Dolan said.
>> Deeper cuts at power plants
>> 
>> State officials say they believe the plan gets Massachusetts to its legal
>> targets. In 2013, the state had already cut emissions by 19.7 percent of
>> 1990 levels, according figures by the Massachusetts Department of
>> Environmental Protection.
>> 
>> Martin Suuberg, commissioner of the state Department of Environmental
>> Protection, said the state tends to err conservatively when proposing
>> emissions cuts. But he said regulators are open to ideas.
>> [image: Charlie Baker]
>> 
>> Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R). Photo courtesy of Wikipedia.
>> 
>> The state's plan, which now goes out for public comment, calls on imposing
>> an annual emissions cap of 9.1 million tons on power plants starting in
>> 2018. That would fall to 8.6 million tons by 2020 and 1.8 million tons in
>> 2050.
>> 
>> It would also impose emission limits for state-owned vehicles, and it calls
>> on gas companies to patch leaky distribution lines and institute a clean
>> energy standard, allowing generators to receive credits for procuring
>> low-emitting sources of electricity, like hydro. The proposal would
>> effectively increase the state's renewable portfolio standard, which now
>> requires that generators receive 11 percent of their power from sources
>> like wind and solar.
>> 
>> "I think we all recognize that we need to keep making progress,
>> particularly as we're moving to transportation and other sectors," Suuberg
>> said in an interview.
>> 
>> Environmentalists are hopeful that they can convince Baker to go further
>> still. The state's proposed cap on power plant emissions needs to be about
>> 1 million tons lower to meet its legal responsibilities, said David Ismay,
>> an attorney with the Conservation Law Foundation.
>> 
>> And while addressing state-owned vehicles is a start, "these regulations do
>> virtually no meaningful work in reducing those transportation sector
>> emissions," he said.
>> 
>> Baker may yet prove a test case for how far Republicans are willing to go
>> in addressing climate change.
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