For most people a "userfied" version like Mint or Ubuntu is plenty. Angie has
done super well on Mint for 3 or 4 years now. She figured out how to rip CDs
for herself even...
-Curt
From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Gnome 3 and Linux Desktop Managers
All reasons why I have not been comfortable moving to linux. Lots of
monkeying around under the hood in a language I don't know, and have
little interest in learning.
> Craig via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> February 17, 2017 at 11:40 PM
> You may recall my abortive attempt last year to update to a new version
> of CentOS so I can run current versions of browsers. I just could not get
> Gnome 3 to work like Gnome 2 I have been using for years.
>
> I found some interesting comments about this situation at
>
> http://www.osnews.com/story/27160/What_s_Happening_with_User_Interfaces_
>
> It has an introduction to the situation, mentioning Windows 8 and other
> things and then says, among other things,
>
> GNOME 3 with the GNOME Shell
>
> When it was introduced in spring 2011, GNOME 3 abandoned the
> traditional desktop design of GNOME 2 in favor of the new GNOME Shell.
> The GNOME shell is superficially somewhat similar to Unity (though the
> two are diverging over time). Both present a new style of desktop
> interaction influenced by mobile devices. As with Unity, some liked
> the new GNOME desktop paradigm, but others didn't and it caused quite
> a controversy. Linus Torvalds famously criticized it and switched
> from GNOME 3 and its shell to Xfce. Then, as the product rapidly
> improved, he went back to GNOME. Tons of extensions and packages like
> the GNOME Tweak Tool smoothed the way. Computers that couldn't boot
> GNOME 3's new graphics ran a Fallback mode that was reminiscent of
> GNOME 2.
>
> GNOME 3.8 was announced in May. It includes a new Classic mode "...for
> those who prefer a more traditional desktop experience." Classic mode
> replaces Fallback mode. Through Classic mode, the GNOME team addresses
> those who dislike its new interface. The goal is to continue with the
> new desktop while keeping users who want a traditional system in the
> fold. My guess is that most will judge GNOME on the basis of its
> enhanced version 3 design, which today many like. Those who want a
> traditional UI have probably already left the GNOME Shell for
> alternatives. In any case, the GNOME project remains vitally important
> to the free software movement in its support of many dozen tools and
> applications.
>
> Maybe I should follow the comment, "Those who want a traditional UI have
> probably already left the GNOME Shell for alternatives."
>
> The article also says,
>
> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE
>
> With the drastic changes in some UIs, interfaces that have remained
> true to the traditional desktop metaphor have gained in popularity.
> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE innovate within the context of this
> long-established paradigm. Xfce is well polished and much faster than
> when I first tried it with Xubuntu several years ago. Today it really
> flies on my Mint systems. You can customize it by adding icons to its
> desktop or quick launch panel as easily as you can in Windows. LXDE
> features a highly-modular design with independent, plug-and-play
> components. Together with its fast apps, LXDE has become the
> lightweight default interface for several distros including Knoppix,
> Lubuntu, and Raspbian. MATE continues the GNOME 2 heritage and
> incrementally improves it with new features and themes. Several
> distros have adopted MATE instead of GNOME 3.
>
> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE will run on mature computers. The newer UIs
> require state-of-the-art graphics hardware. These include current
> releases of GNOME (with 3.8's elimination of Fallback mode), Ubuntu
> (with 12.10's dropping of Unity 2D), and Cinnamon (which requires 3D
> acceleration).
>
> So, it sounds like MATE might be a possibility ...
>
>
> Craig
>
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