I remember when I was a kid they used to let you go up to the cockpit. Seems 
strange now.

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> On Mar 18, 2017, at 6:53 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfgO90yGusI
> 
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of A380s, there was a show on Smithonian channel called "Air
>> Disasters" which features various airliner/aircraft incidents. Yesterday
>> they featured a A380 with a crew of 3 that was on auto pilot when the pilot
>> brought his (9 ur old?) daughter and 15 yr old son into the cockpit and he
>> first let the daughter sit in the pilots seat and she let her hands rest on
>> the control yoke.  Then his 15 year old son had his turn.  He did the same
>> with his hands, but being stronger, he was able to put more pressure on the
>> yoke.  That's when disaster struck as a feature of the new A380 (and many
>> other planes) kicked in -- when pressure is put on the yoke for approx 30
>> sec part of the Auto pilot becomes disabled.  At that point the 15 y.o.
>> teen was controlling the rudder while the autopilot continued to (try to)
>> control the rest.  Evidently this is a feature some commercial pilots
>> like.  At that point the auto pilot tried to keep the plane on course by
>> adjusting the other controls.  It appears the crew was not trained in this
>> feature.  Eventually the plane began to roll while the son was still in the
>> pilot seat.   But maybe forces kept him seated.  So the situation continued
>> to deteriorate as the plane began to dive then roll and slow spin as the
>> crew tried to regain control - the pilot was seated once again.  Eventually
>> they appeared to pull the nose up and stop the spinning, but as the plane
>> climbed they over-corrected and it was almost vertical when it stalled.  It
>> appeared the auto pilot was still in partial control during all of this
>> which happened in approx 40 sec.  All these maneuvers used a lot of
>> altitude and they ran into a mountain.  The airline was the Russian
>> Aeroflot and they said that while what the pilot did was technically
>> illegal many did it. Hmmm.  I pray American commercial planes have a little
>> better cockpit security.
>> 
>> It's amazing to see the amount of info they get from the cockpit recorders.
>> 
>> LarryT
>> 
>> 91 300D
>> 
>> 
>>> On 03/17/2017 4:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> They probably should have been further apart even if it wasn't a 380
>>> 
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>>> On Mar 17, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but the smaller plane was no Piper Cub. It was a twin engine jet.
>>>> The air traffic controllers need to keep these things separated by more
>>>> air.
>>>> There was only a thousand vertical  feet between them when the A380
>>>> passed overhead.
>>>> 
>>>> RB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/03/2017 2:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> With a plane that big it takes a lot of thrust to keep it going which
>>>>> really stirs up the air behind it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 17, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://avherald.com/h?article=4a5e80f3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RB
>>>>>> 
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