Yep, a real pity to see a house ruined like that.You noticed, of course, my Victorians were RESTORED, incl, parquet and tile floors, original wood moldings throughout, several fireplace surrounds and mantels, decorative plaster ceilings, beautiful stairways with walnut balustrades, etc., etc., etc.
Wilt----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projects
Back about 10 years ago there was a old Tudor style 4000sqft house that used to belong to a long time dr in town that was a beautiful old house built in the early 1900s. It ended up forclosed on and was listed for about 70-80K in Claremore where we used to live. Housing market very strong there. Anyway wife was a realtor then also and we had a loan all lined up and everything but ended up not proceeding. Whoever got it got a steal, and they have really fixed it up nice.On the other end of the spectrum and you seen people who buy old victorian style houses, then completely gut them and "update" them so when you walk in them, they look like any other modern house? Well back in the late 90's there was this victorian type house that came up for sale. It was listed at 89k I think. Anyway, the owner was an old teacher who passed away and the house was quite original. Had the most beautiful woodwork and craftsmanship in the house it was amazing. It needed a little work but nothing too major. I would have loved to have bought it but I was young and knew nothing about buying houses. It ended up selling and later it came back up on the market for sale and I went and looked at it again. Apparently whoever bought it went in and completely gutted the house down to the wall studs. I mean completely. Even the original beautiful wooden starcase was out, it its place they had build a new one out of regular lumber. It was sad, very sad. If I remember right they got forclosed on. Later on somebody else bought it and it later came up for sale, this time at around $250k if memory serves. It was like a brand new house inside. It was very very sad remembering what it used to look like. It has been foreclosed on a couple of times since then and is currently foreclosed and was listed, but for some reason the listing has been removed. Here it is on zillow. Take a look at the photos. Look at the fireplace now, it used to be this big fancy dark wood deal, same with the stare case. It looks like they just put run of the mill Lowes hardware in it. If you look at the photo of the back of the house, that upstairs off the back of the house used to be sort of like a screened in porch sort of deal, was a room with windows on all sides. I am betting that was a sleeping room back in the days before AC. For some reason they have fully enclosed it and it is just a windowless room now. Heck it even looks like it some of the photos they installed pergo type flooring either over or replacing the original hardwoods. Of course they have carpeting over most of the hardwood flooring as well. I do not understand why people do this to an old house. If you want it new go buy a new house.https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Claremore-OK/22083621_zpid/10834_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/36.310347,-95.605631,36.309184,-95.607348_rect/18_zm/ On 5/31/2017 5:34 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:1984 thru '87 I was part owner of (1/3 on one, 1/4 on the other) and restored two 1875 Victorian mansions (one a 4200 SF, other 5000SF) listed on The National Register of Historic Places.Early '88 'bought and moved into 3500SF Georgian Colonial Revival (like those in Williamsburg, VA, and Charleston, SC) built in 1905. This house had been extensively renovated in 1941 -lotsa 1941 fabric-covered "Romex"; plumbing supply pipes are copper w/cast iron dwv. I built new kitchen cabinets and installed all new wiring & plumbing in kit and for laundry room/closet in 2F hallway. Also installed new 200 Amp main breaker panel and several new circuits as necessary. Main htng is via 1941, gas fired circulating hot water system with new burner/blower. 'Also installed 3 heat pumps - one on 1F, 2 on 2F1905 slate roof; some repairs as necessary coupla years ago. Wilton----- Original Message ----- From: "OK Don via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "OK Don" <okd...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projectsI remember that house - it was more impressive than the 300D 2.5T I was there to look at/buy. I was really surprised to hear that you'd moved, though I can understand that it was built for little people, not you. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:My former house was built in 1929 and had amazing wood details and lots ofcraftsmanship. Of course, being an old house, it had very littleinsulation, weird wiring, nothing was standard like today, and I loved it. When we remodeled the kitchen we also took down a small wall that lead to a breakfast nook. The contractor wore out several sawzall blades trying to cut through the studs. The wood was super dense and hard. The difficult things about the house were dealing with lath and plaster, wiring that had been updated 3-4 times over 80 years, and small rooms. It wasn't a huge house. But, it was good size, but back then they built houses with smallrooms. I did love all the character of an old house. Don Snook -----Original Message----- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Old house projectsI love old and big, I really love the wood work and details in this house.It's amazing how well built old houses are. Do you think a house built today will be standing in 70 years? 100 years? Hell a little wind blows such as a baby f0 tornado and they are toast. Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Old and big. Likely not well insulated. Old Windows as noted by Kaleb.Expensive to heat and cool which may be why it has been abandoned by itsowners. > > RB > >> On 30/05/2017 2:29 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: >> Could be a fantastic beautiful home or a moneypit. One thing I'msure you know is houses of this age used REAL WOOD. Slow growth trees that are as hard as iron. The bones of the house are probably still good. A foundation issue would scare me a little. It would definitely be a long term project. Would you try to restore and flip? Or turn it into a rental?Or several apartments? >> >> Don Snook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 6:06 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Subject: [MBZ] OT Old house projects >> >> I was scrolling thru local listings the other day out of curiosity on the wifes MLS login. Anyway, I saw this house in town and it lookedinteresting. I had her show it to me today. It is going to need a LOT ofwork but it has a lot of potential. It is really a neat old house withimpressive wood work and detail you do not see anymore. Alot or most of the wood along the edge of the roof which attaches to the ends of the roof studs (not sure what you call it) as well as sofet (sp) is rotted and will require replacement. Floors are uneven in some spots as you would expectin an old house and that does not really concern me much. All of the windows in the house are the old original wood framed windows and havestorm windows installed on the outside. These are these big old windows you dont see in houses anymore. Wife says they all need to be replaced but I told her these unlike new windows can be repaired, or so I think. Just need to to have all the old paint scraped out, remove the old putty that holds the glass in and replace. No they are probably not as efficient asnew windows. On one side of the house they have 2 or 3 huge concretepillars/supports of some sort which butt up against the foundation, almost sort of like buttresses on a cathedral. The only thing I can figure is the foundation started pushing out like it does on old houses and these wereinstalled to hold it in. I have seen other old houses where they have drilled holes in the header plate or foundation with cables stretchedacross from one side of the house to the other attached to metal plates on the outside of the house which can then be tightened as needed to adjust the foundation. The other side of the house looks like its going to need attention as there is a section above the concrete/brick foundation that isstarting to move out. Obviously will need a lot of cosmetics as well.Since its a forclosure in need of a lot of work I thought about offering nomore than $15k, and turning it into a long term project. >> Crazy probably but interesting yes. >> >> https://www.zillow.com/homes/350-s-cedar-nowata-ok_rb/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com-- OK Don*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many ofour people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. 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