You'd rather not have fuel?
Really really bad things happen when train cars slam into towns.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
Really BAD stuff happens when an oil pipeline ruptures. Doesn't matter if
it's "only" occasionally.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:
> +1
>
> Having worked with pipeline operators, I can attest to their strong
> commitment to safety. Far, far safer and more reliable than over the road
> or rail transport of this stuff will ever be.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > True dat. USDOT Office of Pipeline Safety has oodles of data in that
> regard, pipelines are the safest means of transport of all by whatever
> measure you want to take. The pipeline industry is quite proud of this
> record, while still acknowledging "stuff happens." Nothing is 100% "safe,"
> it's the nature of our advanced world. But there are best compromise
> solutions.
> >
> > --FT (not being political, but technical)
> >
> >
> >> On 6/19/17 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> As opposed to railroads that occasionally take out towns.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic_rail_disaster
> >> Pipelines are the safest way to move oil of any type. Really when you
> consider the amount of oil moved around the world every day the amount of
> leaks are minor. Its like airline crashes, when they happen they're big but
> they don't happen often.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> >> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:31 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
> >> Pipelines are GREAT until they leak/ignite.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> But pipelines are bad...
> >> I see the protestors almost every week in Keene. I'm not sure if
> they're Mao's buddies or what.
> >> A couple years ago the price of natural gas (and thus electricity) here
> spiked because theres only one pipeline that feeds all of New England and
> we had a really cold winter with the "polar vortex". Didn't bother us much,
> we don't use a lot of electrons and heat with oil and wood but some people
> got pinched.
> >> My neighbor is against any pipelines, says he's not worried about
> rising prices because he doesn't use many electrons either. I don't think
> he's thought through what will happen if his employer moves somewhere that
> energy is cheaper...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
> >>
> >> Those were the product of Jimmuh Cahtah and his Moral EquivaleTrue
> dat. USDOT Office of Pipeline Safety has oodles of data in that
> > regard, pipelines are the safest means of transport of all by whatever
> measure you want to take. The pipeline industry is quite proud of this
> record, while still acknowledging "stuff happens." Nothing is 100% "safe,"
> it's the nature of our advanced world. But there are best compromise
> solutions.
> >
> > --FT (not being political, but technical)
> >
> >
> >> On 6/19/17 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> As opposed to railroads that occasionally take out towns.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic_rail_disaster
> >> Pipelines are the safest way to move oil of any type. Really when you
> consider the amount of oil moved around the world every day the amount of
> leaks are minor. Its like airline crashes, when they happen they're big but
> they don't happen often.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> >> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:31 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
> >> Pipelines are GREAT until they leak/ignite.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> But pipelines are bad...
> >> I see the protestors almost every week in Keene. I'm not sure if
> they're Mao's buddies or what.
> >> A couple years ago the price of natural gas (and thus electricity) here
> spiked because theres only one pipeline that feeds all of New England and
> we had a really cold winter with the "polar vortex". Didn't bother us much,
> we don't use a lot of electrons and heat with oil and wood but some people
> got pinched.
> >> My neighbor is against any pipelines, says he's not worried about
> rising prices because he doesn't use many electrons either. I don't think
> he's thought through what will happen if his employer moves somewhere that
> energy is cheaper...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
> >>
> >> Those were the product of Jimmuh Cahtah and his Moral Equivalent of War
> >> (MEOW) about the A-rabs screwing us on oil.
> >>
> >> An interesting dimension of that whole deal back then I got from a
> >> friend I had gone to school with along in there, who worked for GATX
> >> Corp. which basically owned all the rail tankers and storage facilities
> >> for oil, gasoline, etc. He told me that every tanker they owned at the
> >> time was parked on railroad sidings hold oil etc. while there were
> >> "shortages" and prices were spiking. There was not one drop of capacity
> >> anywhere to ship anything, which was causing lots of other issues, and
> >> there was no capacity to store any more product. But their inventory of
> >> tankers etc. was completely booked which was good for their profits.
> >> Magically the "shortage" ended with high prices, and everyone was making
> >> big money. Thanks, Jimmuh! BTW I think Warren Buffett is in that
> >> business now... which makes one wonder why certain pipelines were
> delayed...
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 6/19/17 10:00 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Wow. Ford Fairmont. My brother had a two door Ford Fairmont, in
> green. Totally forgot about it until I read this.
> >>>
> >>> What a POS that car was....
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "1982 was the first year for the all-new downsized Lincoln
> Continental, based on the Ford Fox platform."
> >>>>
> >>>> I knew that all the luxo-barges were being downsized in my high
> school days in an effort to meet emissions and CAFE requirements, but I
> didn't know the Continental was put on the Mustang/Fairmont platform. Is
> that true?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mitch.
> >>>>
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> >> Winston Churchill:
> >> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> >> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> >> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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> > Winston Churchill:
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> large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
> of the enemy.”
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