Sometimes it just boils down to "sh*t happens" despite the best parts
and practices humanly possible. The fact is that flying is extremely
safe, aircraft are incredibly durable, engines are extremely reliable,
and most pilots are pretty damn good at what they do, US pilots anyway.
While the FAA might be a PITA about stuff, all the above is mostly due
to that I would think, and the fact that the guy/gal flying the plane up
in that pointy part is always the first one to arrive at whatever
destination is (un)scheduled, so they have a bit of self-interest in the
process.
--FT (who just made some reservations the other day to fly SWA next
month...)
On 4/18/18 8:44 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Being deeply involved in the aviation parts supply chain for 50 years, I
find it very unlikely failure was due to a "counterfeit part". I can say
with firm conviction the entire maintenance supply chain that involves
Southwest Airlines is and will be bending over and grabbing their socks for
some time to come.
"I'm from the FAA and I'm here to help you, because we are not happy until
you are not happy." Is something that sticks in my mind, as owner of
several FAA Licensed Repair Stations. over the years. This entire incident
will be methodically investigated until the full cause can be identified,
then corrective action will be taken via FAA directives as may be needed to
preclude any possible re-occurrence...
That is how FAA works.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:
I was on one of these birds once when the starboard engine failed. It was
quite noticeable! I think I commented: "THAT was interesting!" IIRC we were
bound for PDX from San Jose, did an emergency landing in Medford(?) and
were bussed up the rest of the way.
Do birds fly at 35,000 ft.?
I was wondering if there were a problem with Southwest's parts supply
chain? Could this have been the result of counterfeit engine parts?
Greg
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:24 PM
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I agree that she was killed by the shrapnel, then further beaten by the
slip stream. IIRC, those pilots get frequent simulator training on handling
just such an event. If they can keep their head when it happens in real
life, they should be fine. However, that is not a given since we're "all
human". I had one incident of oil pressure loss just after take off that I
treated as on engine out situation and I can tell you that it really gets
your attention.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
[email protected]>
wrote:
Seems very likely the individual was struck by parts from the engine
destruction causing fatal injury. Being sucked out the window was
"secondary injury".
Cruise speed at 35,000 ft is normally .8 Mach which translates to
"around"
550 kph airspeed. [Mach is the speed of sound through air. Air density at
35,000 ft can vary with temp.]
Point being, being suddenly thrust into a 500+ mph slipstream, after
absorbing massive injury, would be further injury.
Makes a strong case for keeping your seat belt fastened, regardless of
where you or the airplane are located.
Very good friend is the head of FAA Accident Investigation, now
nationwide.
As the investigation develops, I will collect such details as may be
released.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:
The "breaking news" initial reports were ambiguous and confusing, as
they
often are. But at this point it looks like Max has it right.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Meade
Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Go Navy!
My understanding is that one lady got sucked out up to her waist,
passengers pulled her back in, but she died later. I don't think
anyone
else got sucked out. The first report (cabin crew report to flight
deck)
of any bad news is almost always worse than reality, or interpreted
with
a
bias toward the worst case by the receiver, so "partially sucked out
the
window" became "sucked out of the airplane".
-------------
Max
Charleston SC
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