I think many Euro spec econoboxes of the eighties were fwd with no power steeeing. I’m thinking Peugeot, Alfa, and all the Japanese trash of course.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > I don't think I've ever seen a front wheel drive car without power steering, > presumably early cars might have had it... > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:52 PM, Mitch Haley via >> Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> On January 4, 2019 at 2:28 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> Maybe a simple 240D-like >> electric car with no bells or whistles will last 50 years, but I don't >> think anyone is making them - no market because we are a >> consume-and-throw-away society. > > Last I knew, GM had the best motors and the Spark/Bolt have the simplest and > most efficient drivetrain. Something like 96-98% of the motor's output hits > the tires. But even the Spark has a lot of electronics in it, and not just in > the Engine/Brake control module. The electrics have brake by wire controlled > by the ECU, I hope with mechanical backup if you shove the pedal far enough, > because they use regenerative braking up to 1/2G or so and only put the > friction brakes on if you're really stopping hard. It's still slightly better > to coast than to regen, the round trip through the battery returns about 80% > of the original kinetic energy. But 80% is better than the 0% you get with > friction brakes. > > Besides the ECU, you've got the electronic power steering (I'm enough of a > curmudgeon to wish for manual rack and pinion in a 2800lb Spark or my 2900lb > Cruze for that matter), the infotainment system, the airbags and explosive > belt tensioners, the anti-theft gimmicks... > > It'd be fun to put the SparkEV drivetrain in a kit car or an old 2000lb car > or even a 1500lb sand rail, but trying to make the electronics play nice in > an alien environment might drive you crazy. I'd rather stuff the turbo 1.4L > Cruze or 2.0L Verano in a Fiero. I bet I could make that work in a month or > two. Hmmm, a 1988 Fiero GT with a 320 hp 2.0L that's 150lb lighter than the > original V6... > Mitch. > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
