What of all the shuttered refineries. They are just dormant superfund sites. I am sure that somebody will get the bright idea to fire them back up.

Oh, wait, that would mean cutting into the profits, and might flood the market with fuel, thereby lowering profits per barrel

On Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 04:49 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

Two more 50-100 million gallon per year refineries were announced today, in
the same small town.  There are refineries popping up at the rate of
several a month.  It is just that they are making ethanol or biod.

We do need some new oil refineries.

At 04:58 PM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
You;re right - it's been close to 30 years since a new refinery came on
line - 1978 IIRC....

I'd like to see some new refineries with modern technology built (and some nuclear power stations) but I fear we'll let the foreigners provide our oil for the foreseeable future. I read a few years ago about the cost to build something as innocuous as a warehouse built on land in Ca. already owned by a company needed for expansion (and more jobs) - after spending over $1 million in fees and studies over a 10 year period, the company gave up. Then they moved the whole operation to Idaho who welcomed them with open
arms.

A refinery doesn't have a chance --

 David Brodbeck wrote:
Christopher McCann wrote:
"ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY
#1 diesel and than MOST #2."

  Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume...

I don't believe any lubricity additive is necessary (even for use with fuel lubricated distributor type pumps) IF they put back all they took out when removing the sulfur (or they could modify the blend), but that
can't easily be done economically in many of the OLD facilities that
exist in the US. I don't think there has been a NEW refinery built in
the US in 25-30 years. The Europeans have been doing it for years. Their
facilities are far more modern than ours I'm told.

Marshall


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