OTOH, I have been wearing a magnetic bracelet for my arthritic wrist and if anything, the pain is WORSE than before.
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:30 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Exactly. There was a good segment on placebo research on Morning Edition > this morning. It was pretty cool, as the researchers found that even > telling the patients they were getting placebos still resulted in them > feeling better. I think it’s a series they’re running, as I heard another > spot on the same thing earlier in the week. > > > https://www.npr.org/2019/05/09/721685197/placebos-may-be-a-powerful-tool-that-medicine-has-overlooked > > There was a doctor (orthopedic surgeon) who did a study on patients with > arthritic knee pain. One group got surgery, the other got nothing, but went > through a “mock surgery” with an incision and OR activity for the same > length of time that the actual surgery would have taken. He even went so > far as to run a videotape of the surgery in the OR for the patient to watch > as if they were the ones being operated on. > > The placebo group reported as good or better results than the patients who > actually had the surgery. > > He reported his findings to the orthopedic community and it just pissed > off his peers, mainly because it was the most common operation many of them > were performing…. > > -D > > > > > > > On May 9, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Even if it's the power of placebo the results are what matters. If it > works for you that's good for you. > > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: I believed > in them, and they worked, although this was not a controlled > > experiment. I may just heal quickly. > > > > Nikken is the leading manufacturer. They have a global presence in much > > more than magnet therapy. > > > > https://www.nikken.com/na/ > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:51 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Do not forget tinfoil hat and copper bracelet. > >> > >> > >> On 09/05/2019 4:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > >>> So how are the magnets supposed to help? I’m curious. And do they have > >> to be some sort of special magnets? You mentioned a type or brand? > >>> > >>> "While this idea may sound plausible because blood contains iron and > >> magnets attract iron, the iron in blood is bound to hemoglobin and is > not > >> ferromagnetic (that permanent kind of magnetism that keeps magnets on a > >> refrigerator, for example). If blood was ferromagnetic, you would > >> essentially blow up when undergoing an MRI scan, in which the magnets > used > >> are thousands of times more powerful than those incorporated into > magnetic > >> bracelets and the like, according to an article by Dr. Bruce Flamm, a > >> clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of > >> California, Irvine.” > >>> > >>> Live Science > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > >>> > >>>> On May 9, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Nobody except kooks and flat earthers recommend them but I am SOLD on > >>>> magnetic therapy anyway. I figure there is at least a plausible > reason > >>>> they might work (hemoglobin = iron). > >>>> > >>>> And by the way, the PT measured my knee range of motion and the > repaired > >>>> leg is within 5 degrees of the good one (118 v. 113 deg.) so something > >> is > >>>> working (my surgery was a little over 2 weeks ago). > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:42 AM archer75--- via Mercedes < > >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Did your doctor prescribe magnetic therapy Andrew? > >>>>> Gerry > >>>>> > >>>>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >>>>>> I iced religiously to hasten healing of both L and R rotator cuff > >>>>>> surgeries, along with using a Nikken magnet. Currently icing > lavishly > >>>>> and > >>>>>> using magnet on my partial right knee replacement. Doc says I am > WAY > >>>>> ahead > >>>>>> of schedule in terms of range of motion and lack of serious > >> discomfort. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> GO ICE > >>>>>> GO MAGNETS > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:08 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > >>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I read this and think of you.... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/wim-hof-cold-water-immersion-cure-ice-man-outdoor-swimming > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------- > >>>>>>> Max > >>>>>>> Charleston SC > >>>>>>> _______________________________________ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ < > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com < > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
