Wow, that’s steep. My new house is getting inspected by the same guys that 
inspected my current home for me on Tuesday. $475. And that includes a wind 
mitigation survey, which is critical here as it guarantees to your insurer that 
your roof is up to code. My insurance last year with a 20 year old roof was 
around $1700. When I got my roof replaced and had a wind mitigation study done, 
my new insurance dropped to $1200.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> You should get licensed as a home inspector.  They charge $750 per house
> around here.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 8:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Great story!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not the house I built in Florida with a spec home builder. We were their
>> worst nightmare as we’ve built several houses, some ourselves, some using a
>> general contractor who subbed much of it out to us.
>>> 
>>> Read some of the anecdotes. You’ll understand why I said what I did:
>>> 
>>> We red-lined medicine cabinets in all the bathrooms. Interior framers
>> went ahead and framed in for them anyway. Not a big deal as long as the
>> finish carpenters don’t cut them out. Again, we went around and marked the
>> drywall so the finish carpenters knew not to cut out the openings for
>> medicine cabinets. They cut one out before we could stop them. Builder said
>> they would have the hole patched. No you won’t, we told them. It’s MR
>> (moisture resistant or “greenboard”) board and there can’t be any holes in
>> it. Fast forward several days and nothing is done with it. One morning I
>> get a call from the job super in a huge panic. "Someone is vandalizing your
>> home!!!" I pause and give it some thought. “I doubt it. I suspect that’s
>> the wife providing some nonverbal feedback.” Yup, they had patched the
>> hole. She saw it on her daily morning walk through, went out to her car,
>> got a hammer and punched holes in the rest of the drywall sheet so it had
>> to be replaced as we specified.
>>> 
>>> I was looking at the interior framing one evening when we were doing our
>> twice daily inspections. I noticed that the wall between out dining room
>> and laundry room, which had the dryer vent going up to the roof through it,
>> was a standard 2x4 wall. So there’s a 4” metal vent pipe in a wall that’s
>> 3-1/2” thick. Yeah, I don’t think so. Job super says “Yeah, we do them all
>> that way. It’s not a problem, the vent pipe just flattens out a little.
>> Nope. Better comply with code, guys, and put in a 2x6 wall to accommodate
>> the 4” pipe. They did.
>>> 
>>> Same wall was curved. I mean curved. I don’t recall what spec was,
>> something like no more than 3/8” deviation in a 6 foot run, something like
>> that. I took my 8’ carpenter’s level and struck a line to show the wall was
>> well outside the spec. They tore it out and did it again, and the new wall
>> was square/plumb. Amazing!
>>> 
>>> Doing the final punch list we pointed out that there were no switches
>> for the spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai like there was in the
>> model. “Oh, we don’t do those, they’re only in the model.” Pull out copy of
>> the construction contract. “Spa pump and heater with all wiring and
>> installation, as shown in model.” Yeah, sorry, but you’re doing them in
>> this house. Two days later an electrician came out and wired the switches
>> for our spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai. The punctuation on
>> this - when we did the final-final punch list, the job super gave us the
>> switch box from the model labeled “spa pump/heater”. It was empty. It was a
>> dummy and had never been connected to anything.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, not long after we moved in, we received a bill from the local
>> propane supplier. It was for the initial fill and also had a line for the
>> tank lease on it. We never signed a lease for a propane tank. We had a 100
>> gallon propane tank buried in the front yard to feed our gas appliances,
>> fireplace and spa heater. It was an addendum to the construction contract
>> done at the time of purchase. Contract stated, “Builder shall provide 100
>> gallon propane tank and all related piping, valves and hardware for spa
>> heater, fireplace, etc., etc.” We called the builder and asked them what
>> was up. “Oh, all the tanks are leased.” Yeah, I’m afraid not, as we paid
>> for this tank as a part of the contract." They had to buy out the lease
>> from the propane supplier.
>>> 
>>> These are just a small sample of the crazy sh*t that took place the one
>> time we used a spec home builder. They handed out these little carbonless
>> forms that you could fill out and turn in to the office if you found
>> something wrong. They ended up giving us a whole box of the forms.
>>> 
>>> And the really sad part is that we didn’t do anything but hold them to
>> the terms of their contract. We asked for nothing that wasn’t stated or
>> defined in the contract. What’s worse is the thought about how bad they
>> hosed other people’s homes up who either weren't involved in the
>> construction or didn’t know any better. G-d forbid if you bought an
>> inventory home from them!
>>> 
>>> This is typical spec home builder behavior, I might add. They were so
>> upset with us that when the house was almost finished out they banned us
>> from the property and hired a security guard to sit in front of the place
>> after hours. Dipsh*t never got out of his car, so it made it easy for us to
>> go through the place from the back...
>>> 
>>> -D who could write a book about building houses….
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On October 20, 2019 at 5:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then don’t come to Florida, as the majority of newer communities are
>> “deed restricted”, as in having an HOA.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't imagine wanting to live in a "community". Did that from
>> 1970-1975, that was enough for me (and my parents).
>>>> 
>>>> for one thing, you get houses built by developers, who build houses
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