Interesting.  I've seen a lot of black iron pipe for natural gas but all the 
piping for my LP system is copper/brass/bronze (except for the stub going into 
the generator).  All this tubing is in a protected area (buried or in the 
crawlspace).

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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 12:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters
> 
> That reminds of something. So my father is living in mi grandparents house.
> This is about a 100 year old house and they bought it in 71 or 72. My
> grandfather died in 91 and grandmother died in 03. Not too long before she
> died she hired a plumbing company to completely replace all of the gas lines
> under the house and paid probably $3k or so. A couple of weeks ago I was
> over there and immediately smelled natural gas. Of course my father did not.
> Nevertheless he had a plumber come check it out. Plumber says he has never
> seen gas lines so rusty and they are definitely original to the house. No way
> they were replaced in the early 00’s. They are supposed to replace them all
> this week.
> 
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> 
> > On Dec 30, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since most of the household is back to work today, I figured it would be a
> good time to do some maintenance on the hot water heater.
> >
> > A bit of a build-up:
> >
> > This (new) house was owned by a widow for probably 8 years after her
> husband (allegedly) offed himself. That’s a pretty bizarre story for another 
> day.
> Anyway, as you might suspect, she was prone to get sucked in by contractors
> as well as not maintain things as one should. One of her early “misses” was
> installing a solar water heater system. She did this when we still lived 
> across
> the street, so it was about 10 years ago at least. She pissed everyone in the
> neighborhood off, as she gave the contractor everyone’s contact information
> so they could come around and pitch their crap. That did not go over well.
> >
> > When she had the roof replaced a year ago she had the roofer remove the
> solar panel, yet they left the stub-ups for the water lines. WTF? So I’ve got 
> a
> new roof with a couple of pipes sticking out of it about a foot, but again, 
> that’s
> just another issue for the list that I keep…
> >
> > The water heater is really a glorified storage tank. It’s an 80 gallon 
> > American
> water heater with a closed loop that the solar panel’s water would circulate
> through. Funny, as when we moved in I heard this whirring sound in the
> garage. The circulating pump was still connected to the loop piping and
> running, despite everything being disconnected. Duh! Oh yeah - because it’s a
> solar storage tank, it’s only got one 4500W heating element in it, too. 
> Great. 80
> gallons of water and a 4500W heating element...
> >
> > I was sure the water heater had never been flushed, so I did my morning run
> to Home Despot/Lowe’s and got some brass parts to replace the usual crappy
> drain valves on most water heaters. 3/4” brass nipple, brass ball valve, hose
> adapter and a cap.
> >
> > I get home, turn power off to the heater, get the garden hose run out of the
> garage, open a couple of hot water faucets in the house and get ready to open
> the nylon/plastic drain valve.
> >
> > Nothing. Nada. Not a drip.
> >
> > Get the compressor and a spray gun with a rubber tip. Open the drain valve,
> hit it with 100 psi air, and BOOM! A huge blowout on my side. Water and
> probably a 1/2 cup of scale comes flying out of the drain and coats me. Nice,
> but progress.
> >
> > Nope. There’s so much scale in this thing it just clogs the valve right 
> > back up
> after I blow it clear.
> >
> > OK, so we’re going to play nasty, eh?
> >
> > Got out my spray can of Kroil and hosed down the joint between a nipple
> coming out of the tank and the nylon/plastic drain valve. I’m enjoying some
> lunch while the Kroil does it’s thing. I’ll go out shortly and see if I can 
> turn the
> valve loose. Earlier attempts yielded no movement.
> >
> > This could get ugly.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
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