Karl, I wonder - what is the percentage of COVID 19 deaths above the
pre-pandemic "average" death totals in NYC?

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:50 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah. Flu is no joke either. But its rate of hospitalizing people does not
> compare. The main difference is that many people are already immune to
> h1n1, so they dont all show up to the ER at the same time, also because
> h1n1 is less contagious. And covid 19 hospitalizes 20% of the people it
> infects, roughly, which flu does not do. So it is spreading fast into to a
> population with no herd immunity, and making a bunch of them pretty sick.
>
>  See my reply to Dan for a link to the estimated ICU bed shortage state by
> state, estimated deaths etc. They project 81k deaths for the country as a
> whole IIRC for this epidemic over a few months. But NY is short thousands
> of ICU beds and hospital beds, because it hits faster there, whereas
> CLifonia put distancing in place earlier, so it peaks more slowly and we
> remain within our bed capacity mostly. It will still be ugly here and we
> still dont have n95 masks for ourselves or our residents dealing with these
> patients. (The critical care people doing all the intubations get first
> dibs on the n95s). But NYC is in for a truly terrible couple of weeks
> coming up. Just terrible. Models are just estimates but it looks like they
> are already piling up bodies in refrigerated containers outside the
> hospital.
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 9:43 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Time for another update.
> >
> > Then and now:
> >
> > H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> > approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
> > hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
> > occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
> >
> > COVID-19 As of today, 28 March:  ~106,000 cases, ~1700 deaths.
> >
> > Plain Old Flu as killed ~22,000 Americans this season, estimated to top
> out
> > around 30,000.
> >
> > Try to keep perspective folks!
> >
> > -------------
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Then and now:
> > >
> > > H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that
> > > approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304
> > > hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306)
> > > occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
> > >
> > > COVID-19 As of today:  ~9400 cases, ~150 deaths.
> > >
> > > Plain Old Flu as killed ~20,000 Americans this season, estimated to top
> > > out around 30,000.
> > >
> > > Draw your own conclusions.
> > > -------------
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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