Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it 
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.

I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father 
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his 
care. FIL is convinced his 35+ year old car, the red headed stepchild of the 
model line, with over 160k on the clock and numerous minor issues, is worth BIG 
BUCKS. Why? Because a few years back he saw a Mecum or other high line auction 
with a car “just like his” that went for big bucks.

FIL wants to list the car for $9k. Son in law says $6k, knowing it’s a $3k-$4k 
car on a very good day. FIL has agreed to list at $6k after protracted begging 
from son in law. I told the son in law to get FIL to agree to lower the price 
$1000/month for every month it’s listed somewhere. That and keep track of every 
offer, no matter how lousy it is, so he can compile a list of offers and show 
FIL what the market says it’s worth.

This will be a long, drawn out, painful process, and we all know where it will 
end. This is what happens when emotion comes into a transaction.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I see 
> them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if they are 
> selling for that.  I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as it sits at 
> that very moment.  He then started to talk about if he wanted to just sell it 
> for that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get it going.  I think he 
> is in love with the car which adds to it in his mind.  He also talked about a 
> grandson who told him recently he would like to come over and help him get it 
> running.  There is that factor to.  As I mentioned before he seems to have a 
> $7500-$12k figure in his mind for what nice ones go for.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you explain this to him?
>> 
>> Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay 
>> it out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, 
>> so they don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to 
>> rip them off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) 
>> that if they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might 
>> be interested at a higher price.
>> 
>> More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
>> days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been 
>> cleaned up and is now running.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he 
>>> wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he 
>>> should get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get 
>>> a turbo, its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at 
>>> least 1 of my 240Ds.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
>>>> that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t 
>>>> run. How can that compare?
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That’s true
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it 
>>>>>> for a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the 
>>>>>> mechanicals it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>>>>>>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 
>>>>>>>> so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>>>>>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>>>>>>>> would have several.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>>>>>>> Wickford RI
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>>>>>>>  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>>>>>>>  the past
>>>>>>>>  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>>>>>>>  interested in
>>>>>>>>  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>>>>>>>  about
>>>>>>>>  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>>>>>>>  All the
>>>>>>>>  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>>>>>>>  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>>>>>>>  spots on
>>>>>>>>  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>>>>>>>  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>>>>>>>  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>>>>>>>  chrome is
>>>>>>>>  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>>>>>>>  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>>>>>>>  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>>>>>>>  time
>>>>>>>>  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>>>>>>>  to see
>>>>>>>>  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>>>>>>>  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>>>>>>>  going to
>>>>>>>>  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>>>>>>>  him want
>>>>>>>>  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>>>>>>>  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>>>>>>>  take
>>>>>>>>  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>>>>>>>  thru
>>>>>>>>  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>>>>>>>  listed for
>>>>>>>>  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>>>>>>>  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>>>>>>>  has
>>>>>>>>  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>>>>>>> 
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