The instructions for the Pioneer units mention doing that to make it easier to fish the lines through as well as to assure proper drainage for the condensate drain.
-D > On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Those lines are soft copper, you can put an easy bend in them once they are > through the wall. It actually helps to drill your outside hole lower than the > inside hole a bit, maybe an inch or so, so you can start the bend as you feed > the connector through the wall. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> That’s what need to know. Thanks! >> >> -D >> >>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I looked back but didn't find photos that would helpful. As I recall, the >>> refrigerant lines on the indoor unit stuck out (on the outside) about a >>> foot when the indoor unit was installed on the bracket. These "pigtails" >>> were terminated with the threaded cone fitting for flared tubing. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan >>>> Penoff via Mercedes >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:26 AM >>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units >>>> >>>> Thanks, Scott, this is great information! I guess what I was attempting to >>>> determine as far as connections is where exactly the line set connects - >>>> at the >>>> exit point of the wall unit? Do the lines go into the unit at all? >>>> >>>> I’m asking because I want to be able to determine exactly how long of a >>>> line set >>>> I’ll need without ending up short, if that makes sense. >>>> >>>> In other words, if I was measuring for the line set, would I measure from >>>> where the wall unit meets the wall or do the lines go into the cabinet a >>>> distance, and if so, how far? >>>> >>>> I have the flexibility to use either side for connecting the line set and >>>> running it >>>> through the wall, that won’t matter. >>>> >>>> I hope I’m making sense here… >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The outdoor unit sucks in air from the back and blows it out the front. I >>>> mounted mine to the wall thinking that would keep the coils cleaner (grass >>>> clippings, splashed mud, etc) and less susceptible to damage (like hit by a >>>> mower). The commercial pads are plastic now but it's easy enough to cast >>>> one >>>> in place if you go that way. >>>>> >>>>> My Pioneer indoor unit was set up for lines to exit the right (seen from >>>> inside) side and that's how I did mine. Instructions say you can use the >>>> other >>>> side, but I didn't try that. The condensate drain and routing is >>>> important to get >>>> right. You don't want water to collect anywhere (more so here where it >>>> freezes). I enclosed the exposed outside wires in flexible conduit. I'll >>>> look to >>>> see if I have any useful photos. >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:17 AM >>>>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If >>>>>> it’s on a pad it has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot >>>>>> will have ot do with the length of the line sets that are available. >>>>>> >>>>>> -D >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note too the outdoor unit needs to sit off the wall a bit for proper >>>>>> circulation. The brackets I got for mine for some reason unclear are >>>>>> a bit short so the unit overhangs a bit. Not an issue really just kinda >>>>>> odd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --FT >>>>>>> Sent from iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter >>>>>>>> (not a hack >>>>>> saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool). If you hire a >>>>>> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes. Do >>>>>> bend the lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink. The outside >>>>>> unit doesn't vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way >>>>>> they can >>>> absorb vibration. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM >>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down >>>>>>>> the >>>>>> wall a few feet to take up the extra length? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s >>>>>>>>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped >>>>>>>>>> it to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the >>>>>>>>> loop might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, >>>>>>>>> it might pay to download and read the install manual before you >>>>>>>>> order the >>>>>> lineset. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com