The instructions for the Pioneer units mention doing that to make it easier to 
fish the lines through as well as to assure proper drainage for the condensate 
drain.

-D

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Those lines are soft copper, you can put an easy bend in them once they are 
> through the wall. It actually helps to drill your outside hole lower than the 
> inside hole a bit, maybe an inch or so, so you can start the bend as you feed 
> the connector through the wall. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s what  need to know. Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked back but didn't find photos that would helpful.  As I recall, the 
>>> refrigerant lines on the indoor unit stuck out (on the outside) about a 
>>> foot when the indoor unit was installed on the bracket.  These "pigtails" 
>>> were terminated with the threaded cone fitting for flared tubing.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>>>> Penoff via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:26 AM
>>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Scott, this is great information! I guess what I was attempting to
>>>> determine as far as connections is where exactly the line set connects - 
>>>> at the
>>>> exit point of the wall unit? Do the lines go into the unit at all?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m asking because I want to be able to determine exactly how long of a 
>>>> line set
>>>> I’ll need without ending up short, if that makes sense.
>>>> 
>>>> In other words, if I was measuring for the line set, would I measure from
>>>> where the wall unit meets the wall or do the lines go into the cabinet a
>>>> distance, and if so, how far?
>>>> 
>>>> I have the flexibility to use either side for connecting the line set and 
>>>> running it
>>>> through the wall, that won’t matter.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope I’m making sense here…
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The outdoor unit sucks in air from the back and blows it out the front.  I
>>>> mounted mine to the wall thinking that would keep the coils cleaner (grass
>>>> clippings, splashed mud, etc) and less susceptible to damage (like hit by a
>>>> mower).  The commercial pads are plastic now but it's easy enough to cast 
>>>> one
>>>> in place if you go that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Pioneer indoor unit was set up for lines to exit the right (seen from
>>>> inside) side and that's how I did mine.  Instructions say you can use the 
>>>> other
>>>> side, but I didn't try that.  The condensate drain and routing is 
>>>> important to get
>>>> right.  You don't want water to collect anywhere (more so here where it
>>>> freezes).  I enclosed the exposed outside wires in flexible conduit.  I'll 
>>>> look to
>>>> see if I have any useful photos.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:17 AM
>>>>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah, I’m not sure if I’ll do a concrete pad or hang on the wall. If
>>>>>> it’s on a pad it has to be strapped down for hizzicane code. A lot
>>>>>> will have ot do with the length of the line sets that are available.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note too the outdoor unit needs to sit off the wall a bit for proper
>>>>>> circulation. The brackets I got for mine for some reason unclear are
>>>>>> a bit short so the unit overhangs a bit. Not an issue really just kinda 
>>>>>> odd.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter
>>>>>>>> (not a hack
>>>>>> saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a
>>>>>> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do
>>>>>> bend the lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside
>>>>>> unit doesn't vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way 
>>>>>> they can
>>>> absorb vibration.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> wall a few feet to take up the extra length?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s
>>>>>>>>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped
>>>>>>>>>> it to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the
>>>>>>>>> loop might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length,
>>>>>>>>> it might pay to download and read the install manual before you
>>>>>>>>> order the
>>>>>> lineset.
>>>>>>>>> 
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