I think the lack of an engine driven fan is what threw me off. I thought that 
was one of the indicators of a facelift car. Now I know better. Thanks!

I’m thinking about making the guy an offer of maybe $2600 and seeing what his 
reaction is. It still listed today, so I don’t think he’s had any takers yet. 
He said there were some people who were supposed to come by yesterday and look 
at it.

Hmm.

-D

> On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The 99 will not have steering wheel controls, that started in 00 with the 
> facelift models. Every year from 96-99 was just a little bit different then 
> the facelift models were pretty much the same till the end of the run. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good to know. I couldn’t figure out how this would be the case. I’ll have 
>> to go back and look at pictures for the steering wheel - I could have been 
>> confusing it with the 2001 I looked at today.
>> 
>> I really like the electric fan. Makes so much more room in the engine 
>> compartment.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The 99 in the link below is not a facelift car. The electric engine fan 
>>> started 99 pre facelift. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would add that the 99 model was facelift car, so it’s got the newer 
>>>> stuff in the cabin and things like electric cooling fan instead of the 
>>>> engine driven one.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nope. Most dealers won’t let an owner see the VMI, short of maybe letting 
>>>>> them look at it on the computer screen. I have a source for them that 
>>>>> emails them to me. I just haven’t had a chance to get them the 
>>>>> information. I might still get it today, if not, Monday for sure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We’ll see. I’m still sort of “meh” on this one, but the pickings are 
>>>>> really slim around here for just about anything decent and used, or so it 
>>>>> seems. I hate to act fro desperation as I’m not under any pressure, but I 
>>>>> also don’t want to buy something and not have time to thoroughly vet it 
>>>>> before I drive it across country.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can just the owner order a VMI?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $2800 is close enough to asking price so you will probably succeed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>>>>> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Went looking at a couple of W210s sedans with 4Matic, not something 
>>>>>> that’s common around here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First one:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html><https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7207020887.html>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pretty solid, mostly Florida car, guy is clearly a flipper and I called 
>>>>>> him out on it (nicely.) I don’t care, flipping is fine with me as long 
>>>>>> as the price is reasonable for the car. Exterior is good, interior 
>>>>>> probably an 8 out of 10. When he got the car it needed a conductor plate 
>>>>>> and connector body as well as front axles, which he’s done himself. Car 
>>>>>> drives well, everything works from what I can tell. I haven’t seen the 
>>>>>> VMI on it yet, hoping to get one before the end of the day. Don’t know 
>>>>>> what his position is on price. Looks like it’s got three accidents 
>>>>>> reported against it, none major (“no damage reported”) except one in 
>>>>>> 10/2018 which appears to have been repaired at the dealer in Sarasota.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I might go for this one if I could get it for maybe $2800.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Number two:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/dunedin-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-4matic/7211065337.html>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks nice, doesn’t it? This is a classic example of pictures not 
>>>>>> telling the whole story. I was pretty stoked about this one, as it 
>>>>>> looked nice. As soon as I saw the VMI I knew it would be a bust, but I 
>>>>>> figured I would look just in case - you never know unless you look, 
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Delivered in NY, went to Chicago, was up North until 2017. 
>>>>>> Interestingly, the miles put on the car while it was in Chicago were 
>>>>>> really low, like less than 3,000/year. This was encouraging, as I was 
>>>>>> hoping that maybe it was a summer car for a snowbird. No such luck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While it presented well in pictures, I could look into the corners of 
>>>>>> the front of the engine compartment and see rust. Perforations in 
>>>>>> undercarriage metal from rust. Surprisingly, the first place I looked 
>>>>>> was door bottoms, and they were surprisingly clean. But underneath the 
>>>>>> car was a whole ‘nother story. On top of the front fenders the paint was 
>>>>>> flaking off, too, something you can’t see in the pictures.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I gave the car a cursory once-over to be polite and respectful about the 
>>>>>> guy’s time, but immediately crossed it off the list. And also - it had a 
>>>>>> CEL and BAS/ABS lights, which of course the seller failed to mention. 
>>>>>> “My mechanic said it’s something that’s got to do with the wheel 
>>>>>> sensors”, he said. Yeah, I’ll bet every one of them is rusty.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pass.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m giving some serious thought on the first one until I can see the 
>>>>>> VMI. If it was pranged and the dealer fixed it, I’m fine with that. I 
>>>>>> didn’t see any indication of body repairs, so whoever did the work did 
>>>>>> it well. And I would add that the seller disclosed the accident reports 
>>>>>> when he showed me the car, as he had a CarFax for it that I didn’t look 
>>>>>> at.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
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