Would like to get one for the water line while I am at it.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 2:14 PM Karl Wittnebel <atypical...@gmail.com> wrote:

> True but at least I can cross check the total Kwh.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 1:21 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Karl, do you have a 'smart' meter?  Those basically allow the power
>> company
>> to charge you a different rate for electricity used at different times of
>> the day.  If your state utility / laws / regulations allow it, the power
>> company can charge you in ways that will be impossible to figure out if
>> they're fair and legal or not.
>>
>> Dr. Bill Wattenburg used to have a radio talk show (maybe he still does?)
>> and he detailed the problems with CA utilities back in the Enron days, I'm
>> repeating what he talked about.  He also went into a lengthy diatribe of
>> how the power companies will increase your line voltage above 115 volts,
>> sometimes as high as 125 volts, so you use more power and they can charge
>> you more money.  He did a major study when brownouts where plaguing CA 15
>> years ago or so, and his study indicated that the brownouts could easily
>> end if the power companies reduced the line voltage so that your house saw
>> 110 volts, with no damage or noticeable difference in how your appliances
>> etc. operated.  No harm to households, just less power overall used, but
>> the power companies refused to do that because they made more money with
>> higher line voltages and the politicians refused to force a change because
>> they benefit from the crisis, even if it is a manufactured crisis.  Sound
>> familiar?
>> -------------
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 4:10 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Anyone know a good way to cross check a power meter? There was a device
>> you
>> > clamped to your mains at one point, but havent seen it advertised for
>> > awhile.
>> >
>> > I just have a feeling power company is overcharging everyone.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 12:58 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Let’s just say that I got stuck with a $6000 water sewer bill one year
>> > > because of a running toilet in a rental property.
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >
>> > > > On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > How much water can a toilet use that has been running non stop for
>> 2
>> > > weeks straight?
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > >
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