> The problem is that once credibility is lost it's hard to re-establish. If 
> I've been lied to I'm unlikely to believe that source in the future.

Of course, but that doesn't affect the validity _of_the_argument_.
Otherwise, if I am opposed to a true thing, all I have to do is endorse
a prominent liar to stand behind it, then I've taken it out 'automatically'.

Thinking is hard.

-- Jim

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