Of course it is ad hominem to divert attention away from the facts of an article in order to cast aspersions upon its publisher and thereby attempt to discredit the article. A "guilt by association" argument. It is extremely common. It is just not logical in any way
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 1:29 PM greg via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > It is not ad hominem to point to a track record of dishonesty > and bias. While it is not proof of a lie, it is evidence that the NYT > should not be trusted. > Greg > > I take my news where I find it. Are you disputing the facts in the > > article? > > Seems like direct quotes from the people > involved should be pretty > > reliable. > > > > They > are called logicall fallacies for a reason - they are fallacies. In > > other words, it does not follow that because some things in the NYT > are > > not > > true, that all things in the NYT are not true. > This one is known as the ad > > hominem attack, where instead of > refuting any facts, someone tries to > > discredit an article > because a certain person wrote it, or it was > > published > > > in a certain periodical. > > > > > https://kreativcopywriting.com/10-logical-fallacies-know-spot/ > > > > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 7:04 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Really, > you trust the New York Times? Same paper that swore up and down > >> the Hunter Biden laptop was fake, not a thing, ignore this and > move on, > >> and > >> now after the election "oh > yeah, the FBI and DOJ are investigating that > >> laptop. Sorry, > our bad." This is just one of many examples of their > >> > bias. "Russian Collusion" anyone? > >> > >> > No, sorry, NY Times has proven itself to have no credibility at all. > >> They > >> will print anything and everything to rake > in the eyeballs and money. > >> ------------- > >> > Max > >> Charleston SC > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:49 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > > Finally got scheduled for the first dose. Tomorrow at 0930. > >> > > >> > Here's an article about a couple of > Trump appointees who were at the > >> CDC > >> > > during the whole outbreak. It was obvious to me that the people most > >> > qualified to set the policy were in fact not being allowed > to set it. > >> But > >> > this article gives some > detail on how that actually transpired: > >> > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/politics/cdc-trump.html > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 11:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > > Thanks for what you’ve been doing, along with your peers. It > is > >> > > appreciated! > >> > > > >> > > Dan > >> > > > >> > > > > On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > We got a shipment yesterday and we > are all prioritized now by > >> personal > >> > > > and > >> > > > occupational risk factors. So the ICU > people doing > >> aerosol-generating > >> > > > > procedures and those employees with underlying health and age risk > >> > > factors > >> > > > will get the > vaccine first, then anyone working with covid > >> patients, > >> > etc. > >> > > > Maybe by Friday. > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Dec 16, > 2020, 4:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> Got my second shot Monday in the AZ trial, > feeling a bit off last > >> > night > >> > > > >> and now. Cheated and got an antibody test a coupla weeks ago, > >> negative > >> > > >> although I had a rxn > then too. Will go get another test next week > >> to > >> > > see if > >> > > >> I got the > real deal or placebo. 2/3 chance for the real deal in > >> > this > >> > > trial. > >> > > >> If I > got the placebo at some point soon I’ll get the real vax > >> > from > >> > them. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> COVID-19 > vaccine trial participants across SC describe their > >> > > experiences > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > https://www.postandcourier.com/features/covid-19-vaccine-trial-participants-across-sc-describe-their-experiences/article_08542a32-399e-11eb-bb58-e757d49d81f1.html > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> --FT > >> > > >> Sent > from iPhone > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > >> > > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________ > >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > >> > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________ > >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > > >> > > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________ > >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search > list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list > archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To > Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or > change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com