Of course it is ad hominem to divert attention away from the facts of an
article in order to cast aspersions upon its publisher and thereby attempt
to discredit the article. A "guilt by association" argument. It is
extremely common. It is just not logical in any way

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 1:29 PM greg via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
> It is not ad hominem to point to a track record of dishonesty
> and bias. While it is not proof of a lie, it is evidence that the NYT
> should not be trusted.
> Greg
> > I take my news where I find it. Are you disputing the facts in the
> > article?
> > Seems like direct quotes from the people
> involved should be pretty
> > reliable.
> >
> > They
> are called logicall fallacies for a reason - they are fallacies. In
> > other words, it does not follow that because some things in the NYT
> are
> > not
> > true, that all things in the NYT are not true.
> This one is known as the ad
> > hominem attack, where instead of
> refuting any facts, someone tries to
> > discredit an article
> because a certain person wrote it, or it was
> > published
> >
> in a certain periodical.
> >
> >
> https://kreativcopywriting.com/10-logical-fallacies-know-spot/
> >
>
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 7:04 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Really,
> you trust the New York Times?  Same paper that swore up and down
> >> the Hunter Biden laptop was fake, not a thing, ignore this and
> move on,
> >> and
> >> now after the election "oh
> yeah, the FBI and DOJ are investigating that
> >> laptop.  Sorry,
> our bad."  This is just one of many examples of their
> >>
> bias.  "Russian Collusion" anyone?
> >>
> >>
> No, sorry, NY Times has proven itself to have no credibility at all.
> >> They
> >> will print anything and everything to rake
> in the eyeballs and money.
> >> -------------
> >>
> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:49 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> > Finally got scheduled for the first dose. Tomorrow at 0930.
> >> >
> >> > Here's an article about a couple of
> Trump appointees who were at the
> >> CDC
> >> >
> during the whole outbreak. It was obvious to me that the people most
> >> > qualified to set the policy were in fact not being allowed
> to set it.
> >> But
> >> > this article gives some
> detail on how that actually transpired:
> >> >
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/politics/cdc-trump.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 11:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> > > Thanks for what you’ve been doing, along with your peers. It
> is
> >> > > appreciated!
> >> > >
> >> > > Dan
> >> > >
> >> > >
> > On Dec 16, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> > >
> >> > > > We got a shipment yesterday and we
> are all prioritized now by
> >> personal
> >> > >
> and
> >> > > > occupational risk factors. So the ICU
> people doing
> >> aerosol-generating
> >> > > >
> procedures and those employees with underlying health and age risk
> >> > > factors
> >> > > > will get the
> vaccine first, then anyone working with covid
> >> patients,
> >> > etc.
> >> > > > Maybe by Friday.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Dec 16,
> 2020, 4:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> > >
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Got my second shot Monday in the AZ trial,
> feeling a bit off last
> >> > night
> >> > >
> >> and now. Cheated and got an antibody test a coupla weeks ago,
> >> negative
> >> > > >> although I had a rxn
> then too. Will go get another test next week
> >> to
> >> > > see if
> >> > > >> I got the
> real deal or placebo. 2/3 chance for the real deal in
> >>
> this
> >> > > trial.
> >> > > >> If I
> got the placebo at some point soon I’ll get the real vax
> >>
> from
> >> > them.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> COVID-19
> vaccine trial participants across SC describe their
> >> >
> experiences
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
> https://www.postandcourier.com/features/covid-19-vaccine-trial-participants-across-sc-describe-their-experiences/article_08542a32-399e-11eb-bb58-e757d49d81f1.html
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --FT
> >> > > >> Sent
> from iPhone
> >> > > >>
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