One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the infrastructure 
to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to envision just 
doesn’t exist and probably never will.

-D


> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars are 
> electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical 
> devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind of 
> demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to 
> adequate;'fill the need?
> 
> tia,
> Larry
> 06 S350......
> 
> On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly and 
>> shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the collapse 
>> of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough money, in 
>> spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.  Corporate 
>> stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought everyone else 
>> on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail until the Feds 
>> stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the grossly 
>> underfunded AmTrack instead.
>> 
>> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated like 
>> the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and the 
>> rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like highways).  
>> Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the 1980s, directly 
>> subsidizing their competition.
>> 
>> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century 
>> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and maintained 
>> by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20 
>> miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
>> 
>> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of the 
>> Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were going 
>> from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by private 
>> companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in 
>> those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being 
>> shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving 
>> smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big 
>> lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.  Take a 
>> look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
>> 
>> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit my 
>> niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years longer 
>> than we could in a car.
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