I'm on a wooded lot. I'd have to cut a lot of trees to get full sun on the roof 
for more than about 4 hours a day. Also the peak of my roof runs north/south so 
panels on either half of the roof would only get light before or after noon, 
respectively.

I have a clear area where I could possibly site ground-level panels, but that 
would preclude using it for anything else such as a garden. 

Allan

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> Home PV (photovoltaics) to run aircon also makes good sense. Cool the house 
> during the hottest part of the day by capturing the stuff making the house 
> hot.
> 
> PV on business roofs makes solid sense too since you've got a lot of 
> heating/cooling/lighting/etc going on in big buildings.
> 
> The problem is that the solar industry has lost a bunch of believably due to 
> the obvious lies told by the greenwashers. The diysolar group on Reddit is 
> full of questions like "How do I run my apartment aircon on solar?" from 
> people who have no idea how much energy it takes to run even a small aircon 
> and thing they can do it from a 100w panel on their balcony...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, July 23, 2021, 11:47:50 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Home solar to charge an EV sorta makes sense, if your car is at home during 
> the day. It's the ideal use case though, with no complicated grid tie-ins or 
> transfer switches.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > The thing is, they don't. Over about a 30 year span they degrade slowly but 
> > never stop producing power. Nobody knows how long they'll continue to 
> > produce or what the final level will be.
> > Even if they break or quit producing power they're mostly just silicon and 
> > copper, very easy to recycle.
> > Solar is a really great power producer, the problem is the greenwashing 
> > that makes people think it can be the ONLY power producer. Ideally we 
> > should be installing a ton of solar to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels 
> > and working out systems to more easily spin up or down as needed to make up 
> > for shortfalls in renewables.
> > -Curt
> > 
> >    On Friday, July 23, 2021, 9:48:35 AM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
> >  
> > What's your plan for disposal when the solar panels reach the end of their
> > useful life?
> > -------------
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Meanwhile, I am busy ordering more solar panels for my home since the 
> > > price
> > > has come down 40 percent.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:16 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I guess they should have been building more nuke plants.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 22, 2021, at 10:56 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to rain on the EV parade, but, who is going to invest the
> > > > critical
> > > > > and much needed $400 Trillion in building new electrical generation 
> > > > > and
> > > > > transmission lines to support all these new EV vehicles, in the next 9
> > > > > years?
> > > > > Graphic example: California just ordered all EV vehicles NOT to 
> > > > > charge,
> > > > > because the power transmission lines were at peak load and could not
> > > meet
> > > > > the expected charging demands.
> > > > > Record heat, record AC use, forest fires caused by overheated and
> > > sagging
> > > > > transmission lines... etc etc... repeat across Europe.
> > > > > Presently, there is serious discussion about shutting down Hoover Dam
> > > > > because of extreme drought. The water level in Lake Meade is lower 
> > > > > than
> > > > it
> > > > > has been in 50 years.
> > > > > Mining for EV battery materials and critical component materials is in
> > > > > extreme short supply, for the projected future.
> > > > > Large power plants historically take 20 or more years to build, Large
> > > > > transformers have lead times measured in years. Transmission lines? 
> > > > > Who
> > > > > knows for sure, few have been built in the past 40 years. Steel for
> > > > > towers... made in the steel mills in China... Wire for lines... ? Who
> > > > mines
> > > > > the raw materials and what is the real lead time to make thousands of
> > > > miles
> > > > > of new transmission lines?
> > > > > Asking for a friend.
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 7:55 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/mercedes-benz-go-all-electric-2030-n1274708
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Plans to invest more than $47 billion by 2030 to develop
> > > > battery-electric
> > > > >> vehicles, and be ready for an all-electric car market by 2030.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Spending on traditional combustion-engine technology "close to zero"
> > > by
> > > > >> 2025.
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