Yeah, we got burned on Maytag in the last Florida house. Bought a range/over 
and a fridge. The fridge was OK, the dishwasher a POS, but the range/oven, 
which we still have, has been wonky for a number of years and no one seems to 
know how to fix it. We know the work-aound, and we like it otherwise, so it’s 
still serving us.

It’s a range that has a double oven - small one on top, big one below. Th big 
one is a convection oven. If you turn on the lower (convection) oven and change 
the temperature setting after it preheats, it goes into “preheat” mode and the 
temperature falls and never gets to the setpoint. You can turn it off and reset 
it and it works. There’s a hard reset for the controls that was suggested but 
it does nothing to resolve the issue. They sent  tech out multiple times but 
absolutely refused to replace the controls under warranty, saying he couldn’t 
recreate the issue (but he did, twice.) They offered us a $300 credit for a 
$1200 oven. Nope.

I made sure we posted everywhere we could in the way of appliance repair forums 
about our issue. Of course we heard similar stories.

So much for the ”Maytag Man”.

-D



> On Apr 18, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> There are also a lot fewer manufacturers than there are brands. KitchenAid 
> used to be made by Hobart and that established their reputation. Today they 
> are just a brand of Whirlpool, as is Maytag, another brand that used to be 
> known for dependability.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kitchen aid dishwashers are considered good by today’s standards, as 
>> are Bosch but the longest lifespan dishwashers made today are Miele. Of 
>> course these are probably all junk compared to the stuff made 30-40 yrs 
>> ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We moved in 9 years ago to a home that had KitchenAid double door fridge
>>> and SS dishwasher - installed 5 years prior.  The DW was repaired once,
>>> then started making a noise that didn't affect its operation, but we
>>> replaced it anyway with a Bosch.  The fridge hasn't given any trouble at
>>> all.
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The other factor is that software is usually considered to be rented or
>>>> leased, not owned by the user who pays for it - even old installed
>>>> applications like Office IIRC. So why should the software running the car
>>>> be any different?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:33 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> I own it, it’s mine, the manufacturer should not be able to change
>>>>> things after the fact.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are becoming a Luddite, Dan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sadly, most manufacturers are going to a "subscription" model, not only
>>>>> for software (I.E. QuickBooks, Office 365), but for enabling options on
>>>>> automobiles. Want heated seats? That will be $59.95 for the year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> https://www.consumerreports.org/automotive-industry/why-you-might-need-to-subscribe-to-get-certain-features-on-your-next-car-a6575794430/#:~:text=At%20least%20five%20automakers%E2%80%94%20Audi%2C%20BMW%2C%20Cadillac%2C%20Porsche%2C,those%20features%20are%20already%20built%20into%20the%20car
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
>>>>> "You will own nothing, and you will be happy."
>>>>> Klaus Schwab
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
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>>>> OK Don
>>>> 
>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>>> 
>>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>>> Wernher
>>>> Von Braun
>>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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