There are also a lot fewer manufacturers than there are brands. KitchenAid used to be made by Hobart and that established their reputation. Today they are just a brand of Whirlpool, as is Maytag, another brand that used to be known for dependability.
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > Kitchen aid dishwashers are considered good by today’s standards, as > are Bosch but the longest lifespan dishwashers made today are Miele. Of > course these are probably all junk compared to the stuff made 30-40 yrs > ago. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 18, 2022, at 4:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> We moved in 9 years ago to a home that had KitchenAid double door fridge >> and SS dishwasher - installed 5 years prior. The DW was repaired once, >> then started making a noise that didn't affect its operation, but we >> replaced it anyway with a Bosch. The fridge hasn't given any trouble at >> all. >> >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The other factor is that software is usually considered to be rented or >>> leased, not owned by the user who pays for it - even old installed >>> applications like Office IIRC. So why should the software running the car >>> be any different? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:33 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> I own it, it’s mine, the manufacturer should not be able to change >>>> things after the fact. >>>> >>>> You are becoming a Luddite, Dan. >>>> >>>> Sadly, most manufacturers are going to a "subscription" model, not only >>>> for software (I.E. QuickBooks, Office 365), but for enabling options on >>>> automobiles. Want heated seats? That will be $59.95 for the year. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> https://www.consumerreports.org/automotive-industry/why-you-might-need-to-subscribe-to-get-certain-features-on-your-next-car-a6575794430/#:~:text=At%20least%20five%20automakers%E2%80%94%20Audi%2C%20BMW%2C%20Cadillac%2C%20Porsche%2C,those%20features%20are%20already%20built%20into%20the%20car >>>> . >>>> >>>> "You will own nothing, and you will be happy." >>>> Klaus Schwab >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com