Yes the EV has more emissions to produce but breaks even by about year 5 in normal use on carbon IIRC.
Thise little Aptera things have solar cells in the roof and are so light and aerodynamically slippery that you can charge about 40 miles a day on sunlight only. I may do that eventually but collision with any big SUVs would not be pretty, even with airbags. Karl On Thu, May 26, 2022, 1:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel burned > to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. Not to > mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they > should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > besides electric battery powered cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > EVs are for pussies! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > >> Curt > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important thing > with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to complete. > If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't know > how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin > posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > >> > >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed up. > You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive out > moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional > longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > >> > >> > >>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep up > on > >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > >>> > >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and is > >>> pretty reliable which would I look for? > >>> > >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 is > >>> very good too. (Right?) > >>> > >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > >>> > >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > blue > >>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its own > >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives like > a > >>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to get > >>> everything heated up and working. > >>> > >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of that is > >>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short trips > >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a weekend > 600 > >>> miles or so maybe every few months. > >>> > >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > driven > >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the 602, > >>> 603, and 606? > >>> > >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I > >>> remember hearing great things about those. > >>> > >>> Donald H. 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