Just for Andrew's enjoyment. Since we live in a perfect world, and pollution is only caused by evil hydrocarbon emissions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_horse_manure_crisis_of_1894
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:18 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Perhaps you should go back to horse and buggy so you do away with > emissions. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 28, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I prefer a reality of no emissions from all the cars and trucks driving > all > > over the place. We can control the power plant emissions. > > > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:44 AM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> This one picture, with the technical details in the text, does a pretty > >> good job of connecting reality to the "zero emissions" of EV autos > >> argument. Behind the magic of push button living, there is the reality > of > >> what it takes to have that luxury delivered. > >> [image: image.png] > >> > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal > fired > >>> power plant. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel > >>> burned to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. > >> Not > >>> to mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years > they > >>> should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > >>> besides electric battery powered cars. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> EVs are for pussies! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > >>> cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > >>>>>>> Curt > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important > thing > >>> with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to > >> complete. > >>> If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't > >> know > >>> how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. > Kevin > >>> posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed > >>> up. You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to > drive > >>> out moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > >>> especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing > occasional > >>> longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > >>> forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep > >>> up on > >>>>>>>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and > >>> is > >>>>>>>> pretty reliable which would I look for? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 > >> is > >>>>>>>> very good too. (Right?) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > >>> blue > >>>>>>>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its > >>> own > >>>>>>>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives > >>> like a > >>>>>>>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to > >> get > >>>>>>>> everything heated up and working. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of > >> that > >>> is > >>>>>>>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short > >>> trips > >>>>>>>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a > >> weekend > >>> 600 > >>>>>>>> miles or so maybe every few months. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > >>> driven > >>>>>>>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the > >>> 602, > >>>>>>>> 603, and 606? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I > >>>>>>>> remember hearing great things about those. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Donald H. 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