Correct. There’s nothing that protects the data on the magnetic stripe.

-D

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I meant that the card info is in clear text on the mag stripe. Anything 
> that can read that (skimmer, or compromised POS system) can steal card 
> numbers. I've got a USB mag stripe reader somewhere and I've tried it with my 
> own cards on my personal computer.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 15:47, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> And just to clarify, if someone has put a card “skimmer” on the reader, 
>> that’s a totally different situation. You only need a card reader to 
>> get the data off the magnetic stripe. If it’s a retail POS terminal 
>> that data is encrypted when the card is swiped.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unless the retailer has grossly out of date equipment (and is waaaay out of 
>>> compliance), the card information is never sent in the clear. It’s 
>>> encrypted at the time it’s read and transmitted that way. That’s part of 
>>> PCIE P2PE standard version 3.0 Domain 1 (2019). Since you have to work with 
>>> a card processor, it’s highly unlikely this could be the case, as I can’t 
>>> imagine there are any card processors out there who aren’t compliant with 
>>> the latest standard.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If a retailer is still using "swipe" technology (mostly gone now except 
>>>> for gas pumps) then it's easy for a compromised system to steal the card 
>>>> info. For "chip" transactions it's supposed to be difficult/impossible 
>>>> because the clear text card info is never transmitted.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, at 07:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> It’s quite possible that the PXG shop’s account or POS system is 
>>>>> compromised rather than an employee there stealing the information. 
>>>>> That also has a lot to do with the speed of the misuse - a valid card 
>>>>> number has to be sold and used quickly, before the card issuer can find 
>>>>> out it’s compromised and kill the card.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mrs. Dan had a similar situation with her card being compromised at a 
>>>>> liquor store. It was hit three times within an hour of it being used. 
>>>>> All three hits were in south Florida and for really stupid stuff, like 
>>>>> a bowling alley.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
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