I had a compact hybrid Ford sedan in 2018 as a rental. It performed well and 
used very little gas. As I recall, after driving it for three weeks for a daily 
driver I think I put $10 of gas in to the whole time.

I just came back from Wally World, where I took a look at the chargers they 
have in their parking lot. It appears you have to pay no matter what. At least 
that's what it appears, as it tells you to plug in the car first and then 
you'll be prompted for the kind of charge you want. Nothing in the way of 
instructions or information regarding the cost on the chargers, you apparently 
have to connect up first before you can do anything. I did look on the website 
for the chargers and this is what it said:

1-350 kWh $0.48 per kWh

Looks like they have a couple different kinds of chargers, regular and 
fast/high capacity. I understand kWhs, but not sure how that translates into 
charging.

-D


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From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 5:32 PM
To: mitch--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers 
stranded

I was sort of interested in the Volt except for its price tag. So far as
I am concerned, any EV needs to be a hybrid so that one can go longer
distances without concern about re-charging.

Randy


On 07/07/2023 4:21 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2023-07-07 14:53, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they
>> cost I expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.
>
>
>
> Ten years ago I thought the Volt was not a great idea, but over the
> years people I knew who switched from Cruzes to Volts all loved the Volt.
>
> By the numbers, the Volt was heavier and slower than a Cruze (same
> chassis), got slightly more  mpg on the open road, got maybe 2/3 the
> EV range of the Spark with the same battery the Spark used. With the
> 2nd Gen Cruze/Volt, the mpg gap shrunk, the performance gap widened,
> and even if I did 80% of my driving in EV mode I wouldn't save enough
> to ever recover the purchase cost of the Volt.
>
> But the heavy Volt was comfortable on the freeway, handled adequately
> in the corners, was very quiet and acceptably economical in EV mode,
> and driving to Florida was as simple as stopping for gas every 350
> miles (10 gallon tank). But for me, the gas Cruze was cheaper, almost
> as quiet, and had all the performance (2nd generation anyway) of my
> 2.3-16v.
>
> If Dan wanted to stick a Volt in the Flagstaff garage, he could keep
> it fueled from a 120V outlet, and a trip to Phoenix would be merely a
> gas nozzle away. It might not be fast, but it'll handily out
> accelerate a 300D, even a OM606 turbo.
>
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