A couple months ago I was at the vast northern estate, cruising in to camp on a road I had recently cut the bushes back on. It had rained a little bit and there were a bunch of green leaves on the grass making it pretty slippery. I was only in 2wd and when I got to the first turning hill section the wheels started to spin.
Normally this would be the point where I'd engage 4wd but I could feel the traction control back off power and wondered what would happen next. I kept my foot where it was at about 1/4 throttle, the computer backed off the power and the truck stopped moving. The next part was interesting, the computer would add a little power, a wheel would spin a little, it would back off and then, I think hold the brake a little on the wheel that slipped. Slowly we started to make progress again. It was weird but I could definitely feel the truck playing with the rear brakes to find which wheel had the most traction. Pretty soon normal movement resumed. This was on my 2018 RAM 1500 classic. Its the basest of base models but apparently the traction control is pretty smart. I would expect an EV to be able to do better. -Curt On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 12:40:50 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: EVs are pretty heavy, so in theory they should be good snow cars. But they are also torquey, and have specific tire requirements to accomodate their weight, so I don't know how they do in reality. Cold weather does reduce the range substantially. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, at 10:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I've looked at these for the AZ house. My biggest concern was driving > it in the winter. Not as far as range or charging, but ground clearance > and handling. I just wonder how well these will do in snow? > > -D > ________________________________ > From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of OK Don via > Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 11:36 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf > > I saw an Aptera driving north on I-35 in OKC years ago - sounds like they > might be getting close to production. > Aptera Motors <https://aptera.us/> > If I were in the market for a new car, I'd consider one of these. > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:15 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The Fisker array sort of reminds me of vapor ware. I'll believe all these >> gee whiz vehicles when I see them on the local roads. >> >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:44 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > Do they have orange PlasticDip on the door handles? >> > >> > -D >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Allan Streib >> > via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:10 AM >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > Cc: Allan Streib <astr...@fastmail.fm> >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf >> > >> > I think some of the Fisker cars look good, but I've never seen one in the >> > wild. Are they actually making any of them? >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, at 07:38, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> > > With my massive array of solar roof panels and EV hookup, it makes more >> > > sense to drive an EV for routine errands. >> > > >> > > I watched the Fisker Product Vision Day show on youtube last night. >> They >> > > have some really cool vehicles about to reach the market. The only one >> > in >> > > my price range is the Pear, due in 2025. >> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lETXC9S6S54 >> > > >> > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 8:25 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I've seen the "no mow" stuff in northern AZ, but the funny thing is >> that >> > >> grass is really rare there due to the climate. Most people, if they >> want >> > >> grass, get the fake stuff. >> > >> >> > >> One of the things I love about the place. Other than having to rake >> pine >> > >> needles twice a year, there's nothing else required in the way of >> > yardwork. >> > >> It's mostly bunchgrass and other native plants. Natural xeriscaping. >> > >> >> > >> -D >> > >> ________________________________ >> > >> From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Curt >> > Raymond >> > >> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 10:13 PM >> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > >> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> >> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf >> > >> >> > >> No mow May was kind of funny, we don't really even get dandelions >> until >> > >> near the end of May... >> > >> >> > >> -Curt >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 09:25:57 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via >> > >> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> To keep up with the Jones? The new thing now is to let your weeds grow >> > and >> > >> put a “pollinators lives matter” sign in your yard. >> > >> >> > >> Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> > >> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 9:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Out of curiosity, why have you decided to dump the GLK250? >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> > >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> I'm looking for an EV to replace the GLK 250, possibly a VW E-Golf. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Anyone have any experience with a diesel/gas VW Golf? I assume the >> > EV >> > >> >> version would have similar issues other than the drive train. >> > >> >> _______________________________________ >> > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > OK Don >> > >> > >> > >> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing >> > you >> > >> > are wearing." >> > >> > >> > >> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time >> to >> > >> > pause and reflect." 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Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Werner > Von Braun > > "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. > In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be > doing it." > -- Richard W. 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