I say one of those bio-digester units in rural India back in the late 1970's. It was basically an underground vat with places to shovel manure and garden waste so it would slide to the bottom, and covered with a heavy metal cap that provided the needed pressure for cooking, heating and lighting the farm house. If it could be done over there back then I do not doubt that it could be done over here in ways that would be less intrusive to modern living. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 277k miles
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sending guests north We already have some "guest workers" in Canada. However, we have had to invite them to come in and work because they will do the jobs that decent Canadians do not want to do. In Manitoba, we have more pigs than people. Huge hog barns have become plentiful (Lord help our ground water - more on this below). Now we need Hog processing plants and workers to fill them. Lousy work at lousy pay. Folks from the country south of the USA seem willing to do it. The locals mostly do not want to. A company is trying to build a new hog processing plant in Winnipeg now and the locals are screaming mad. They don't want a messy hog procesing plant within the city limits. I can understand not wanting it in your back yard but Winnipeg has had an area devoted to meat processing for ever and I don't see this as being any different. If one buys a house in that part of the city then one should be willing to live with the potential issues. If not, then don't live over in that area. Let the folks who work there, live close by. They likely won't mind. We have, unfortunately, come to an era where everyone thinks they have a god given right to have their area remain as it is and to prevent any sort of progress. For example, there is a need for condominium buildings for older folk who wish to move out of their homes. The locals in an area just up from my office are dead set against any condo development in their area. They expect people who sell their houses to move off to some other part of town. I personally think it is not unreasonable to put some multifamily buildings in the area so that folks can stay in their home area and not have to leave when they move out of a detached family home. Back to the hog manure issue - I keep wondering if we could harness the energy in all the hog manure - methane in copious quantities to heat our houses for next to nothing and maybe power our vehicles too. I hear that in China many rural homes have a very basic bio-digester unit into which all sorts of waste goes and methane results that heats the home and cooks the meals etc. If they can do it on an individual scale, a hog farm should be able to produce lots of gas and the process should make the by product safer for the eco system after it has composted into soil. Randy B -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 500 PPM low sulphur .. No, not an attempt at sarcasm. If we can't annex ourselves can we send some of our "guest workers" up your way? Here in Texas there are about 3 million who would most likely enjoy a higher quality of life than what they can find in this low QoL place. Tell me when the buses are leaving, give me your phone number, and I will put the word out. They are easy to program with food, health care, and housing, no problemos amigo, and I am sure the social rewards would offset and costs. --R (done run thru spel chek) Jeff Zedic wrote: >Rich, > >I'm sure that was an attempt at sarcasm. At least the spelling was good. > >If you check any of the "QUALITY of life indexes" you'll find Canada >MUCH higher up than the US. In fact the Scandanavian countries have the >highest quality of life followed by Japan and then Canada. (We used to >be #1 for many years. > >No, you cannot annex yourselves to Canada as the cost of reprogramming >the herd would bankrupt us. > > >Jeff Zedic >Toronto >87 300TD > > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
