With leaking delivery valves, a low fuel tank level and parked nose up on a slope, your 300SDL stands a good chance of a no start, I don't know about other models.
This morning I intentionally and finally duplicated what had happened to my wife about a month ago. She called from a neighbors that it would not start, I went and checked fuel flow, (good), primary filter, (clean), return fuel,(yes) and the fuel gauge showed just over 1/4 tank. I let it roll backwards to the road and pointed towards home for a tow. When my wife got in to steer, she tried it again and it started. At home I changed both fuel filters, degreased, washed and blew the area dry, except I noticed fuel returning to the delivery valve (DV) area. Rusty was called for DV orings, springs and copper seals and I continued to use the car. After filling the tank and on the way to school one night, I remembered someone on the list had a slope starting problem, seems it was at their daughters house, not sure. I decided to try and duplicate the no start. I started parking on a fairly good slope at the house. I even took a level to estimate if the slope made the fuel tank level below the DVs and it seemed to be so. I kept testing as the tank level keep going down and this morning it happened. When I parked it on the slope last night, the fuel gauge was just over 1/4 tank and it would not start until I let it roll to a level spot. Even then it took a lot of cranking to self bleed before starting but this was a more severe slope than my neighbor's driveway. Of course I would think that any leak could cause the same thing, but DVs are where the rubber hits the road so any air there is trouble. Time for breakfast and to start thinking about re-sealing the DVs. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 29 19:40:38 2006 Received: from mailout2.parasun.com ([204.174.16.202]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GI9Ru-0005Rq-Kq for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:40:38 +0000 Received: from rrcs-24-39-222-124.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.222.124] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout2.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1GI9Rg-0007DB-OW; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:40:25 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:39:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] No start with SDL parked nose up X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:40:39 -0000 My 86 Ford E350 van with 6.9 diesel does the same thing. Starts easy as can be with the nose pointed downhill but cranks forever if it is pointed uphill. Can't seem to find the air leak so I just make sure to park it "right". Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] No start with SDL parked nose up > With leaking delivery valves, a low fuel tank level and parked nose up on > a slope, your 300SDL stands a good chance of a no start, I don't know > about other models. > > This morning I intentionally and finally duplicated what had happened to > my wife about a month ago. She called from a neighbors that it would not > start, I went and checked fuel flow, (good), primary filter, (clean), > return fuel,(yes) and the fuel gauge showed just over 1/4 tank. > > I let it roll backwards to the road and pointed towards home for a tow. > When my wife got in to steer, she tried it again and it started. At home > I changed both fuel filters, degreased, washed and blew the area dry, > except I noticed fuel returning to the delivery valve (DV) area. > > Rusty was called for DV orings, springs and copper seals and I continued > to use the car. > > After filling the tank and on the way to school one night, I remembered > someone on the list had a slope starting problem, seems it was at their > daughters house, not sure. I decided to try and duplicate the no start. > I started parking on a fairly good slope at the house. I even took a > level to estimate if the slope made the fuel tank level below the DVs and > it seemed to be so. I kept testing as the tank level keep going down and > this morning it happened. > > When I parked it on the slope last night, the fuel gauge was just over 1/4 > tank and it would not start until I let it roll to a level spot. Even > then it took a lot of cranking to self bleed before starting but this was > a more severe slope than my neighbor's driveway. > > Of course I would think that any leak could cause the same thing, but DVs > are where the rubber hits the road so any air there is trouble. > > Time for breakfast and to start thinking about re-sealing the DVs. > > Harry Watkins > Newton, MS > 86 SDL Silver > 85 300D Euro > 86 SDL Gold > 81 240D manual trans > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com