Thanks Rich - my memory isn;t what is used to be. ;-)
I climbed in a cargo DC3 on the ramp once - Geez, just climbing from the door to the cockpit was a PITA - loading cargo must have been a LOT of fun.

OTOH, I was invited into a early Learjet for a lookaround and was amazed at how *small* it was. Beautiful - but tiny. It had been doing touch & go's for a while and we (my instructor & I) hoped to catch a ride - but when we caught up with him he was done for the day ;-(.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Radial Engines


Avgas and JetA weigh in at 6#/gal, water is 8ish, I would guess oil is
closer to 6, maybe a bit more.  A big bucket swinging around on a wet
oily wing seems to weigh a TON!

I got to fly once by happenstance (the steamer ran aground so we took
the plane) on the world's highest-time DC-3, in summer service with Cape
Air (might have been called something else back then) flying from
Hyannis to Nantucket.  It was gorgeous, original style interior with big
wide seats, 2x2, like an old Caddy.  She flew at a stately pace at about
500ft on the short hop over the Sound, those big radials making a very
comforting sound.  Probably still in service somewhere.  As a ramp rat I
got to load freight on some old DC-3s, NOT FUN as the tail sits low and
the nose high, bucking big boxes up that aluminum deck and trying to get
them to stay put til you could tie them down was a chore.  I recall one
still had the "radio shack" installed behind the cockpit, with the
original tube radios.  It was quite a sight.  The pilot said the owner
was sentimental...

Here are some sounds
http://www.centercomp.com/cgi-bin/dc3/sounds?13

A lot of old D18s and even DC-3s were converted to turbine engines, D18s
on tricycle gear with a nose wheel, they performed really well but
looked strange.  I would love to have a DC-3.  I was at a car show a few
years ago, a couple there had a couple old cars of some sort, I
overheard them talking to someone they knew about having to sell some of
their cars and planes, including the DC-3 (the woman said sadly "I loved
that plane"), when the "all bidness" went sour a few years before.  I
didn't know whether to be sad for them or not, though they seemed like
regular folks who happened to have some varying fortunes (exceeding mine
though).

--R

LarryT wrote:
Hi Rich -
Great story - BTW, a 5 gal of oil weighs *about* 48 #'s.  Back when I was
flying we had to calc the weight of everything so we wouldn't be overweight
and to get the planed loaded properly - we used 8#s as a number to get us
close when calculating fuel weight. Those Cessna 150s I learned in were the
240D of airplanes -

Those old Beechs are classic planes with a beautiful shape - like the old
DC3 which is used a lot still - after it was developed 60+ years ago -- just like the W123 in its various guises will be with us & loved by us for many
years to come -




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