I have an 85 123 wagon with the regular slushbox. It has only 160K mi on it and is still going strong. I have no intention of getting rid of the thing as it seems to improve with age.
I recently identified a gray market 300d (sedan) of similar vintage with a bad motor which has the 5-speed, and am thinking about doing the transmission switch. Anyone ever do this before? How painful is it? I know if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but I think I would enjoy the next 200K miles more with a manual shifter, Compared to what it would cost to buy a new(er) car, this seems a reasonable investment in my driving satisfaction. Informed comments appreciated, Karl --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 24 15:10:58 2007 Received: from [12.2.42.104] (helo=odin.envisagenow.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HrExu-00014r-Gz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 24 May 2007 15:10:58 +0000 Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.56]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:55 -0400 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:51 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Karl Wittnebel's message of "Thu, 24 May 2007 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2007 15:10:55.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9FB6270:01C79E15] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:10:58 -0000 I recall a statement on this list that Mercedes never paired a turbodiesel motor with a manual transmission, at least not in the era we're discussing. People have put manual transmissions in W123 turbodiesels, but the torque of the motor is more than the transmissions were designed to handle, and they tend to break in a relatively short time. If your wagon is not a turbo, then it should be doable, I'd guess. Allan Karl Wittnebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have an 85 123 wagon with the regular slushbox. It has only 160K mi > on it and is still going strong. I have no intention of getting rid of > the thing as it seems to improve with age. > > I recently identified a gray market 300d (sedan) of similar vintage > with a bad motor which has the 5-speed, and am thinking about doing the > transmission switch. > > Anyone ever do this before? How painful is it? > > I know if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but I think I would enjoy the > next 200K miles more with a manual shifter, Compared to what it would > cost to buy a new(er) car, this seems a reasonable investment in my > driving satisfaction. > > Informed comments appreciated, > Karl -- 1983 300D 1966 230