I believe I remember Marshall saying this was NOT true. IIRC he said the reasons for not having the manual trans were that emissions where higher because people couldn't drive as smooth as the automatic, and that the manual would be a slug off the line until the turbo spooled up. The latter being the bigger factor. The turbo engine doesn't have THAT much torque...
-Curt Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:10:51 -0400 From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 5-speed into 123 wagon? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I recall a statement on this list that Mercedes never paired a turbodiesel motor with a manual transmission, at least not in the era we're discussing. People have put manual transmissions in W123 turbodiesels, but the torque of the motor is more than the transmissions were designed to handle, and they tend to break in a relatively short time. If your wagon is not a turbo, then it should be doable, I'd guess. Allan Karl Wittnebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have an 85 123 wagon with the regular slushbox. It has only 160K mi > on it and is still going strong. I have no intention of getting rid of > the thing as it seems to improve with age. > > I recently identified a gray market 300d (sedan) of similar vintage > with a bad motor which has the 5-speed, and am thinking about doing the > transmission switch. > > Anyone ever do this before? How painful is it? > > I know if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but I think I would enjoy the > next 200K miles more with a manual shifter, Compared to what it would > cost to buy a new(er) car, this seems a reasonable investment in my > driving satisfaction. > > Informed comments appreciated, > Karl -- 1983 300D 1966 230 --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 24 15:41:58 2007 Received: from [204.174.16.201] (helo=mailout1.parasun.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HrFRu-0003kF-7B for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 24 May 2007 15:41:58 +0000 Received: from rrcs-24-39-223-119.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.223.119] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout1.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1HrFRr-0008Cy-72 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 24 May 2007 08:41:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:41:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:41:58 -0000 5 bucks each on Saturday special at the PnP here. Most weekends anyway. $10 for aluminum of any sort. Both with or without tires. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...Restoring Bundts > On Wed, 23 May 2007 21:09:59 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > P.S. U-Pull bundts are $20 here. (I know you know, Clay.) >> >> $20!!!! That is pretty spendy >> >> I am still able to get normal bundts for $12.50, those chrome jobbies >> were $15 > > So how much are steel wheels for an '82 240D (W123) to use for snow tires? > > > > Craig > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com