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Please bear in mind that folks who drive larger vehicles have some difficulty
in safely passing you in traffic. I
have had a Suburban and now a couple of F150's. I don't want to clip some poor
cyclist with my mirror while trying
to get around him and not hit the car/truck in the lane next to me. After
holding up traffic behind me to cleanly
get around the cyclist, it really irks me to have him pass me at the next light
and have to do it all over again in
the next block or two. I have tried pulling close to the curb before stopping
to send the message but that seems to
enrage cyclists and I have had them bang on my vehicle.
I understand folks who wish to ride as they want the exersize or don't have a
car. I have friends who do it but I
don't plan to join them and I really think that city traffic is a lousy place
to ride. I think a cyclist really
needs to be mindful of how much bigger and heavier a truck is. I can't stop on
a dime and any error on their part
or my part is gonna hurt. Do do yourself a favour and stay as far away from
trucks as you can. Don't push the rules
of the road or your luck as you aren't going to win. Please be safe out there.
I'm gonna lose sleep if I ever run
one of you over.
I gave up my Honda Goldwing for similar reasons. I was able to keep up with
traffic obviously, but the fools in the
trucks were willing to ride 2 feet from my back fender. I try to give
motorcycles a whole lot of room as I remember
how I felt. However, the common thing is that if I leave a little too much
room, some other fool pulls into the
space between me and the bike so it doesn't always do much good to be nice.
Randy (climbing gingerly down from his soapbox)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers
See, this is really amazing to me: It is literally expected that a bicyclist
will stop way back from a red light - sometimes a half a mile or more - and
wait beside the car that they are next to? And this gets confusing when you
consider which car to choose to wait beside. I mean it's a law, right, so
let's follow it exactly.
If traffic is already stopped and backed up at a light, you are required to
pull up along side the rear-most car and wait there?
And if you are cruising along side traffic and it slows and stops in a line
at a light, you are to find a car that is about to roll to its stop, and
pick it as your car to wait beside?
If it sounds crazy, I think it is!
I don't consider advancing past stopped traffic at a red light "passing"
(though I know it is legally considered so). I simply consider it advancing
along in my legitimate and legal bike area (the rightmost margin of the
roadway). If there is not another bike in my way, I will advance all the way
up to the intersection then wait, or go if the light is green by such time.
I'm sure I can be proven wrong legally, but that doesn't make it any less a
stupid law. And yes, I realize the reason for the law is to avoid the danger
of a car pulling out to the right and into the path of the cyclist.
All this said, just remember that laws are broken all day, every day, and
they always will be. It's known as human nature. I don't remember the last
time I saw someone actually come to a complete stop at a stop sign, for
instance. And it's extremely rare to find anyone obeying the speed limit. So
I am not going to negate the great advantage of riding a bicycle by obeying
this urealistic and unreasonable law.
Fun, ain't it?
Brian
Allan wrote:
Bikes are supposed to obey all the same traffic laws as cars. I don't
know of any jurisdictions where this is not the case. Passing on the
right or the shoulder is not a legal manuver. I could see a valid
exception if an explicit bicycle lane is marked...
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