So you are trying to tell me that cars are designed to kill intentionally, I suppose you're argument would be that firearms are designed only for self defense? I suppose if you want to split hairs that is your prerogative but my way of looking at it that cars are designed to transport people from A to B and firearms are designed to fire a bullet at high speed at whatever you point them at. What idiots do with either I can't help. However if you want to dig into stats then go and look at the proportion of gun ownership and gun deaths. Apparently the US and Canada have a similar percentage of gun ownership but nowhere near the number of related gun deaths. Why is this so? I have my theories but this is not a gun discussion forum and as such might provoke as much hostility as discussing politics or religion. We are here primarily to discuss automotive things, particularly MB, but also talk about other things every now and then. I have had my knuckles rapped a few times for expressing my political views, the basis being that discussion on that subject can lead to heated arguments and as such I am happy to not impose my political or religious views here. This is called civility, hopefully I am given the same treatment when it comes to the subject of firearms. You just never know, if we really all work hard together then one day we can put away these machines of death and focus on the machines of life.
Fmiser wrote: > > > "machines of death". > > In the USA, the number of deaths: > > 44000 due to automobile accidents > 29500 due to firearms (including 16,000 _suicides_) > > http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/2007/01/03/huge-toll-in-car-fatalities-in-us-goes-unnoticed/ > > http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html > > So are you referring to our cars when you say "machines of death"? > > Maybe you should be. > > Way to die, and the number of deaths in 2003 due to each - from: > http://www.nsc.org/lrs/statinfo/odds.htm > > All External Causes of Mortality 166,857 > Motor-Vehicle Accidents, 44,757 > Intentional self-harm 31,484 > Accidental poisoning by and exposure to noxious substances 19,457 > Assault 17,732 > Falls 17,229 > Firearm (non-suicide) 12,267 > Accidental asphyxiations (threats to breathing) 8,885 > Complications of medical and surgical care 2,855 > > > Maybe where you are the roads are safer. Or the chance of poison > is less. Or gravity doesn't work so hard so a fall is less > likely. > > I see three significant conclusions from this data. > * The roads are much more dangerous than the guns. > * If I choose to defend myself and my family, we are less likely > to be one of the 17,000. > * The risk of dieing from assault is less than death by poison > and nearly the same as death from a fall - so why worry about > assault protection. > > -- Philip, owner of many machines of death - mostly W123s > > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com