Each platform has its advantages and I agree that the Cherokee is a
superior off road vehicle. But the Grand Cherokee with the inline 6 is a
superior highway vehicle.
Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924
-----Original Message-----
From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: 12/10/07 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
actually, if you want to be technical about it, there's at least 3
different versions of Grand Cherokees; the original ZJs, WJs, and the
(IIRC) WKs. all of them except for the first half of the first year of
the ZJs got the ChryCo trannys, and those early '93 ZJs with the 4.0L
straight-6 and AW4 tranny are highly coveted by people in the know. as
they progressed, they followed the same path most humans seem to; they
became heavier and less capable with an increasing biased taste towards
comfort and luxury vs. performance. ;-)
frankly, i prefer my XJ Cherokee to any and all of the Grands, but i
bought it knowing that it was only a platform on which to build a tool
to do what i really wanted to do on roads that may or may not be paved
and/or snow covered. it's been very acceptably cost-effective for that
and worked amazingly well at it, but hey, i've only put about 220K miles
on mine so far,... ;-)
cheers!
e
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> The Cherokee and Grand Cherokee are 2 vehicles built on 2 platforms. I
> would not own a Cherokee.
>
> The 6 cylinder engine in my Grand Cherokee is one of the best engines
> Chrysler built. They have records of thousands with over 300,000 miles
> in the clock.
>
> The transmission was Chrysler's weak point in the early 90s, but has
not
> been an issue for years. I lost the transmission in my Grand Cherokee
at
> 155,000 miles and I'm not complaining.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Diesel List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: 12/10/07 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
>
>
> Other than the reliablity issue which is clearly a disaster you're
> already getting higher than the rated mileage on your Jeep and so
should
> get higher with the diesel I'd think.
> I also regularly get higher than the rated both on my 190D and Dakota.
> In fact I did on my '88 GMC too.
>
> I've never driven a Grand Cherokee but my parents had a Cherokee and I
> hated it, worst 4x4 I've ever driven, my '88 GMC S15 ate it alive in
the
> woods and for mileage and for comfort, and for handling. The 4.0 i6
was
> a powerful engine though.
> The folks have a pair of Liberties now and they sure don't impress me.
> Its not like I don't have anything to compare them to...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:01:24 -0600
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>
> I drive a 01 Grand Cherokee with 170,000 miles on the clock & my Wife
> drives
> a 05 Grand Cherokee with 35,000 miles on the clock. Bash if you'd like
> but
> the Jeep Grand Cherokee is an excellent vehicle.
>
> I can't say the same for my oldest Son's M class, which had an engine
> rebuild at 85,000 miles........
>
> And the diesel engine in the Grand Cherokee is the same one that's in
> the
> Mercedes. It's manufactured by a subsidiary in Italy. I don't drive a
> diesel
> Grand Cherokee because the cost per mile is less in my 01. I get 18
MPG
> in
> the city & 21 MPG on the highway with my in-line 6 cylinder engine.
The
> diesel Grand Cherokee is rated at 21 / 25.
>
> Right now, Chrysler offering a lifetime warranty on all Jeep engines,
> except
> for the diesel. Why not the diesel? Because they don't expect the same
> reliability from the engine. Wife works for the company & I asked the
> right
> people.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
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