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On Dec 27, 2007 9:48 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Remind me how old she is. I think a lot of it has to due with a kids age.
>
> Bob R.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:02 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
>
> i often wonder whether it is not in reality more dangerous to take my kid
> for a drive to the grocery store than to let her out on the street all
> day.
>
> the reality is that i almost can't help being overprotective.  if she
> wants
> to walk up the street to play with some kids, she either takes me or the
> dogs.
>
> On Dec 27, 2007 6:34 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I believe we are insanely over protective and it's caused by the
> > information
> > age we live in.
> >
> > Think of it this way - some kid gets brutally murdered 2 states away,
> it's
> > all over the net, we read about it, send out millions of emails and we
> all
> > pull our children in closer. The same goes for Amber Alerts. It's a
> great
> > idea but what happens when one goes out? Again, we pull our children in
> > closer to protect them - usually against a criminal who has less than a
> 1
> > in
> > 1,000,000 chance of actually getting close to our children?
> >
> > But if this had happened 50 years ago, the murder would have appeared in
> > next Sunday's paper, probably way back in section C or D. We would have
> > read
> > it, expressed some concern for the family & went on. Why? Because it's
> not
> > a
> > "local story" - it happened 2 states away!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > www.kegkits.com
> > 256-656-1924
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:58 PM
> > To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] how the world has changed
> >
> > my kid informs me that she really wants to go to disney world.  i
> explain
> > that disney world is a place i really hate, so she ought not hold her
> > breath.  then she suggests that she can go to the park by herself and i
> > can
> > go find some other way to entertain myself during that time.  i dismiss
> > the
> > idea immediately.
> >
> > when i think back though to when i was her age, i realize that is
> exactly
> > what would have happened had my parents taken me to disney.  (my
> parents,
> > however, didn't venture more than about 100 miles from new york city, so
> > no
> > worries about this actually coming up).  by the time i was in the fifth
> > grade, i was pretty much on my own.  i walked to school in the morning
> and
> > back home in the afternoon.  on days when there was no school, i'd leave
> > the
> > house to go out on the street in the late morning and come back at
> > dinnertime.  i walked long distances to go places and would take the bus
> > or
> > subway on my own if i had the money to.  all my friends lived this
> > lifestyle
> > as well and a complete lack of supervision seemed the norm.  in fact,
> the
> > few children we did know who lived under parental supervision where
> > considered highly unusual both by us kids and by our parents.
> >
> > my dad left hungary after a dispute with the communists and their
> radical
> > expansion of power.  europe, however, isn't really that big a place, so
> he
> > soon found himself living the life of a beach bum in southern italy.  he
> > was
> > quite a dark skinned man and seemed able to spend all day in sea and
> sand
> > without any ill effects.  i, on the other hand, burn easily and am
> > impatient
> > with just sitting in the sand all day.  he came to new york and was a
> > beach
> > bum there as well and never lost his love of the beach.
> >
> > on summer saturdays we would go to jones beach along with 100,000 other
> > people.  it is a large and well appointed place.  i'd hang out with dad
> > for
> > half an hour or so, then disappear to find other activities.  maybe i'd
> > swim
> > a couple of miles down the beach or maybe i'd go check out the
> basketball
> > courts.  i'd return several hours later after having entertained myself
> > adequately . this was pretty normal.
> >
> > i'm still fond of the beach and take my kid whenever i can.  she is
> never
> > out of my sight.
> >
> > my question is a simple one:  were my parents' generation simply
> negligent
> > in their outlook or are we simply insanely overprotective?
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