i'm not planning to.  just thought about how different my thoughts towards
children's independence are from those of my parents' generation.

On Dec 27, 2007 11:12 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Almost 11 might be too young unless she really has her act together. We
> dads
> protect our girls a little more than the boys I believe.
>
> Bob R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
>
> almost 11
>
> On Dec 27, 2007 9:48 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Remind me how old she is. I think a lot of it has to due with a kids
> age.
> >
> > Bob R.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:02 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
> >
> > i often wonder whether it is not in reality more dangerous to take my
> kid
> > for a drive to the grocery store than to let her out on the street all
> > day.
> >
> > the reality is that i almost can't help being overprotective.  if she
> > wants
> > to walk up the street to play with some kids, she either takes me or the
> > dogs.
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2007 6:34 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe we are insanely over protective and it's caused by the
> > > information
> > > age we live in.
> > >
> > > Think of it this way - some kid gets brutally murdered 2 states away,
> > it's
> > > all over the net, we read about it, send out millions of emails and we
> > all
> > > pull our children in closer. The same goes for Amber Alerts. It's a
> > great
> > > idea but what happens when one goes out? Again, we pull our children
> in
> > > closer to protect them - usually against a criminal who has less than
> a
> > 1
> > > in
> > > 1,000,000 chance of actually getting close to our children?
> > >
> > > But if this had happened 50 years ago, the murder would have appeared
> in
> > > next Sunday's paper, probably way back in section C or D. We would
> have
> > > read
> > > it, expressed some concern for the family & went on. Why? Because it's
> > not
> > > a
> > > "local story" - it happened 2 states away!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Hargrave
> > > www.kegkits.com
> > > 256-656-1924
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:58 PM
> > > To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: [MBZ] how the world has changed
> > >
> > > my kid informs me that she really wants to go to disney world.  i
> > explain
> > > that disney world is a place i really hate, so she ought not hold her
> > > breath.  then she suggests that she can go to the park by herself and
> i
> > > can
> > > go find some other way to entertain myself during that time.  i
> dismiss
> > > the
> > > idea immediately.
> > >
> > > when i think back though to when i was her age, i realize that is
> > exactly
> > > what would have happened had my parents taken me to disney.  (my
> > parents,
> > > however, didn't venture more than about 100 miles from new york city,
> so
> > > no
> > > worries about this actually coming up).  by the time i was in the
> fifth
> > > grade, i was pretty much on my own.  i walked to school in the morning
> > and
> > > back home in the afternoon.  on days when there was no school, i'd
> leave
> > > the
> > > house to go out on the street in the late morning and come back at
> > > dinnertime.  i walked long distances to go places and would take the
> bus
> > > or
> > > subway on my own if i had the money to.  all my friends lived this
> > > lifestyle
> > > as well and a complete lack of supervision seemed the norm.  in fact,
> > the
> > > few children we did know who lived under parental supervision where
> > > considered highly unusual both by us kids and by our parents.
> > >
> > > my dad left hungary after a dispute with the communists and their
> > radical
> > > expansion of power.  europe, however, isn't really that big a place,
> so
> > he
> > > soon found himself living the life of a beach bum in southern italy.
>  he
> > > was
> > > quite a dark skinned man and seemed able to spend all day in sea and
> > sand
> > > without any ill effects.  i, on the other hand, burn easily and am
> > > impatient
> > > with just sitting in the sand all day.  he came to new york and was a
> > > beach
> > > bum there as well and never lost his love of the beach.
> > >
> > > on summer saturdays we would go to jones beach along with 100,000
> other
> > > people.  it is a large and well appointed place.  i'd hang out with
> dad
> > > for
> > > half an hour or so, then disappear to find other activities.  maybe
> i'd
> > > swim
> > > a couple of miles down the beach or maybe i'd go check out the
> > basketball
> > > courts.  i'd return several hours later after having entertained
> myself
> > > adequately . this was pretty normal.
> > >
> > > i'm still fond of the beach and take my kid whenever i can.  she is
> > never
> > > out of my sight.
> > >
> > > my question is a simple one:  were my parents' generation simply
> > negligent
> > > in their outlook or are we simply insanely overprotective?
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