Several years ago, I bought a cheap Lincoln wire feed MiG with a kit to use gas cover. With it, I could do a serviceable weld in CLEAN sheet metal. I fixed the floors in my Met. Very ugly as welds were badly contaminated due to the floor having some type of rust preventative on it The big problem was that the duty cycle on the welder was about 20 seconds before it would go off on safety. I fooled to DMV inspector who wouldn't pass the very neat Pop Rivet job the P/O had done. I put the welder in a corner, anything I needed to weld for a few years I did at work with our TIG. 2 years ago I wanted to build a BBQ out of a 55 gal drum and a bunch of scrap angle iron. HInt: Old bed frames are very good raw stock! I trusted friend suggested that I loose the gas cover and use flux filled wire. His rationale: My machine couldn't melt .035 wire, it was too small capacity. .035 flux filled wire has much less metal to melt. I built my BBQ! Welds needed multiple passes and had to be chipped in between. They have good penetration and are functional. The BBQ has been used & abused for several year, we've never lost a rack of ribs from poor welding!
-- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:41:34 -0500, you wrote: >The extra power output of the 180 is a big plus. I'm often wishing I >had more power. That lets you use a larger wire which means you finish >sooner and use less gas (depending on the task at hand). More power >penetrates deeper allowing you to get a good weld on thicker >materials. I'll defer the choice between the T and C models to someone >that has actually used them. > >-Dave Walton > >On Dec 30, 2007 7:21 AM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Shopping.com lists several Lincoln welders (#140-180) in the $600-$800 range >> that will take the $170 spool gun: >> .............................................. >> "BRAND NEW LINCOLN MAGNUM SPOOL GUN (K2532-1) For use with new Power Mig 140 >> or 180. No additional requirements, ready to plug into welder and run...." >> http://www10.shopping.com/xGS-Lincoln_Mig_Welders~NS-1~linkin_id-8000718 >> ............................................... >> If you were buying one of the welders on the above website, which one would >> you buy (assuming you didn't want to spend more than around $1000 for the >> welder/spool gun? >> Thanks, >> >> Gerry >> --------------------------------------- >> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > All the "Old Timers" that I know and have learned from have a bias >> > towards Lincoln. They refuse to even try an auto-darkening helmet - >> > but all agree it is a good thing for us youngsters. They also say that >> > a single accidental flash without a mask in place can cause permanent >> > damage. One guy has been using the same mask for over 50 years. >> >> > Lincoln has a $200 spool gun. Make sure that is an option on whatever >> > model you get. It allows you to mig weld aluminum. I got a Miller and >> > regret it. The spool gun option costs more than I paid for the base >> > unit. >> > -Dave Walton >> >> > On Dec 29, 2007 7:31 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Lowes has (4?) sizes of MIG welders. The largest is 220v; the others >> >> 110v. >> >> How many max amps would you need for light shop work and an occasional >> >> trailer hitch? >> >> Is Hobart still a good brand? >> >> Gerry >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > *Anyone* can do a decent mig weld the same day they first try it. Tig >> >> > actually requires some coordination. Start off with an old brake rotor >> >> > and move your way down to a coffee can. Thinner materials are harder >> >> > to weld. >> >> > With a Mig welder and a plasma cutter, you can do about anything. >> >> > >> >> > -Dave Walton >> >> > >> >> > On Dec 29, 2007 10:07 AM, Dave H... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> My biggest need for welding would be #1: welding fittings into 55 >> >> >> gallon >> >> >> drums and #2: constructing sheet metal tanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> I know nothing about welding (I have been an electrician building >> >> >> submarines >> >> >> for General Dynamics and do know how to inspect a weld but not perform >> >> >> any >> >> >> welding) what is the groups recommendation for a welding setup for me? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dave H... >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:54 AM >> >> >> To: "Diesel List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Itsa whole different process. >> >> >> > MIG is supposed to be better for fast and dirty welding, especially >> >> >> > when >> >> >> > the materials you're joining aren't perfectly clean, my snowmobile >> >> >> > exhaust >> >> >> > for instance. >> >> >> > TIG makes a cleaner prettier weld but its slower because its a >> >> >> > separate >> >> >> > torch and filler rod deal. Its also much better for aluminium. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'd surely love to have the money for a TIG setup, of course if I >> >> >> > did >> >> >> > have >> >> >> > that money I'd probably be better off spending it on a better MIG... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -Curt >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:46:14 -0500 >> >> >> > From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Welding day >> >> >> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> >> >> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> >> >> > reply-type=original >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What's the advantage of a TIG welder over a MIG welder? The prices >> >> >> > on >> >> >> > TIG >> >> >> > welders are quite a bit more than MIG welders. I've been told that >> >> >> > it's >> >> >> > easier to weld aluminum with a TIG, and that a TIG is better when >> >> >> > welding >> >> >> > different metals together. >> >> >> > Gerry >> >> >> > -------------------- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >_______________________________________ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
